Chiefs Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future - Page 7

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality.

I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them.

Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a sh*tty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around.

Seriously, it shouldn't take a ****n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for **** sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself.

I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this ****n sh*t!! When Herm was here, they signed these ****n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping.

Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, **** off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is ****n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sh*t they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be.

You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. There is no excuse for this bullsh*t that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap.

I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.

ChiefsCountry · 09-28-2009, 06:47 PM

The biggest problem in the offseason was Pioli and Haley thought it was just Herm and Carl were the problem, and they could waltz in a win with what was on hand.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The biggest problem in the offseason was Pioli and Haley thought it was just Herm and Carl were the problem, and they could waltz in a win with what was on hand.

That's sure what it looks like, a couple of vets and a QB and they'd win 8 games...if they really watched tape and evaluated it that way, that's very scary.

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

The biggest problem in the offseason was Pioli and Haley thought it was just Herm and Carl were the problem, and they could waltz in a win with what was on hand.

I think another problem was ego.

I couldn't understand benching DBowe for who? Terrance Copper. And what was Haley trying to prove.

Why is DJ on the bench? When our linebackers suck and he is the best one we have. The fact they're starting Demorrio Williams over DJ just proves to be stupidity.

Simplex3 · 09-28-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

What other options are available?

I think you're allowed to crap players too.

Simplex3 · 09-28-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The "old guys" brought in for leadership, like Zach Thomas, were quickly euthanized. It's just been a bizarre series of moves, to be honest.

This one was strange to me, but I wasn't around. I don't know what was going on there.

**Dartgod** · 09-28-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

I think you're allowed to crap players too.

Isn't that how we got in this mess?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

This one was strange to me, but I wasn't around. I don't know what was going on there.

I'm not sure the Chiefs know what was going on based upon how the offseason looked.

Simplex3 · 09-28-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That's sure what it looks like, a couple of vets and a QB and they'd win 8 games...if they really watched tape and evaluated it that way, that's very scary.

Only if they aren't learning from it.

Simplex3 · 09-28-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Isn't that how we got in this mess?

I believe so, yes.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Simplex3

Only if they aren't learning from it.

If they watched tape from last year and evaluated that we just needed a QB and some guys for leadership, what's that say for their ability to evaluate talent?

kcfanXIII · 09-28-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

It's not the time factor. My point is, the operations are the same. When Lamar passed things became different. i don't ever recall Clark ever making splashes in FA to help build the team. A lot on here feel the draft is more important then FA. But, I still think that shouldn't neglect the fact FA is just as important because its part of building a team after all.

Im tying this all from Peterson to now. The Chiefs are cheap. They don't go out and sign premier guys that can clearly upgrade certain positions on the the team they're weak at.

You can have the best GM in the world, it don't matter. If your owner doesn't want to spend or isn't motivated enough to upgrade certain positions on the team. Then expect holes. People complain that the Chiefs have to many holes. Why? Do they fail to see the way they operate as a primary reason to why this team is so devoid in talent. I can't undestand the reason of complaints. Honestly, when you sign Mike Brown(injury prone), Mike Vrabel(at the verge of the end of his career), Zach Thomas(done), bobby Engram(nothing more then a slot receiver), Bobby Wade...NOBODY wants these guys.

As a result, you're not gonna have a better team. It just represents an example of Clarks cheap ways. But were told this is the right way.

The so called "Patriot way! And it's bullsh*t! complete ****n bullsh*t!!

you want instant results, you need to move along. instant is never as good as when you do it the right way. while FA is important, i have no problem with them not bringing in any overpriced under producing players. going into year 3 after a couple of drafts thats when you sign some free agents, to get you over the hump. besides, we were more than a few FA signings away from anything. i don't care if they go 3-13 or 8-8. its the same record to me, because both will send you home in january. sorry dude, you have to give this some time to clean up the crap that was on this roster. your stance on this is just plain dumb, and unrealistic.

kcfanXIII · 09-28-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If they watched tape from last year and evaluated that we just needed a QB and some guys for leadership, what's that say for their ability to evaluate talent?

ya, thats what they were thinking when they cut or traded 30 guys...

god you people are dumb.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

ya, thats what they were thinking when they cut or traded 30 guys...

god you people are dumb.

It's not really 30..basically every team turns over 10 guys a year and they're counting the practice squad as 10 also.

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It's not really 30..basically every team turns over 10 guys a year and they're counting the practice squad as 10 also.

it's not really 30???? where have you been? we have 30 new players on the roster. so yeah it's 30

**kysirsoze** · 09-28-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

If they watched tape from last year and evaluated that we just needed a QB and some guys for leadership, what's that say for their ability to evaluate talent?

I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

09-28-2009, 04:15 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality. I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them. Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a shtty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around. Seriously, it shouldn't take a *n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself. I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this *n sht!! When Herm was here, they signed these **n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping. Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is *n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sht they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be. You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sht. There is no excuse for this bullsht that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap. I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1471248	The biggest problem in the offseason was Pioli and Haley thought it was just Herm and Carl were the problem, and they could waltz in a win with what was on hand.
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