Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future

[RedThat]

Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality.

I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them.

Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a sh*tty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around.

Seriously, it shouldn't take a ****n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for **** sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself.

I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this ****n sh*t!! When Herm was here, they signed these ****n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping.

Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, **** off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is ****n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sh*t they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be.

You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. There is no excuse for this bullsh*t that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap.

I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Here is what we got rid from the final roster (IR Included)

NFL
Tony Gonzalez - Falcons
Turk McBride - Lions
Andrew Carnhanan - Giants (IR)
Adrian Jones - Texans
Jason Babin - Eagles
Alfonso Boone - Chargers
Benard Pollard - Texans

Cut in NFL Training Camp
Damon Huard
Will Franklin
Rocky Boiman
Connor Barth
Brian Johnston

Cut from Chiefs Training Camp
Jeff Webb
Herb Taylor
Damion McIntosh
Weston Dacus

UFL
Quinn Gray
Tavares Washington
Oliver Celestin

Not in Training Camp
Kevin Robinson
Michael Merritt
Pat Thomas
Curtis Gatewood
David Macklin
Patrick Surtain
JP Darche
Donnie Edwards

so 27 by my count

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

so 27 by my count

I am stunned that Adrian Jones is still in the NFL.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

Warpath, is it your contention that penalties is the complete and absolute measure of the discipline of a football team?

What about route running discipline? What about discipline with blocking assignments? What about filling lanes and keeping assignments?

Anyone who has played the game knows discipline is more than penalty stats.

No, that's not my contention at all.

But the numbers you posted are ridiculously skewed, and IMO, show nothing resembling improvement when it comes to discipline.

You're trying to show that the OL is more disciplined because they gave up more sacks, but don't take into consideration that the immobile Damon Huard was playing in the first two games (after Croyle's injury) and then the 3rd string Thigpen in the 3rd game.

The same argument can be made for the INT stats. They are horribly skewed.

Personally, I think this OL is WORSE than last year, and I have no idea how anyone can try to claim that this team ins more disciplined regardless of how you would like to define it.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, that's not my contention at all.

But the numbers you posted are ridiculously skewed, and IMO, show nothing resembling improvement when it comes to discipline.

You're trying to show that the OL is more disciplined because they gave up more sacks, but don't take into consideration that the immobile Damon Huard was playing in the first two games (after Croyle's injury) and then the 3rd string Thigpen in the 3rd game.

The same argument can be made for the INT stats. They are horribly skewed.

Personally, I think this OL is WORSE than last year, and I have no idea how anyone can try to claim that this team ins more disciplined regardless of how you would like to define it.

Good post.

[Chief Faithful]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

No, that's not my contention at all.

But the numbers you posted are ridiculously skewed, and IMO, show nothing resembling improvement when it comes to discipline.

You're trying to show that the OL is more disciplined because they gave up more sacks, but don't take into consideration that the immobile Damon Huard was playing in the first two games (after Croyle's injury) and then the 3rd string Thigpen in the 3rd game.

The same argument can be made for the INT stats. They are horribly skewed.

Personally, I think this OL is WORSE than last year, and I have no idea how anyone can try to claim that this team ins more disciplined regardless of how you would like to define it.

I'm not contending the OL is more disciplined because they have given up fewer sacks. I am contending that the coaching is better and it shows on the field. The example about sacks was to offset you contention that the penalty stats were proof positive that the team is not more disciplined.