Chiefs Get of Mark Castle's back! - Page 11

**pr_capone** · 11-10-2009, 01:08 AM

First and foremost... I am no Cassel apologist but I am tired of reading posts just bashing Matt left and right.

Here are the numbers. And before I get started... **** all this "garbage time" bullshit. EVERY QB in the league has garbage time stats so let's not get too wrapped up in that. It's not like teams have replaced all their starters with 2nd and 3rd stringers at the end of games on us.

This is a statistical comparison of current QB's 2nd season as full time starters. Cassel, Ryan, & Flacco's stats are projected numbers of 16 games played in a season.

Pay special attention to the TD, INT, and Sack numbers.

Completions
Cassel - 286
Ryan - 312
Flacco - 366
Brady - 373
McNabb - 285
Rivers - 277

Attempts
Cassel - 514
Ryan - 514
Flacco - 564
Brady - 601
McNabb - 493
Rivers - 460

Completion Percentage
Cassel - 55.6
Ryan - 60.9
Flacco - 64.9
Brady - 62.1
McNabb - 57.8
Rivers - 60.2

Yards
Cassel - 2871
Ryan - 3568
Flacco - 4088
Brady - 3764
McNabb - 3233
Rivers - 3152

TDs
Cassel - 23
Ryan - 26
Flacco - 24
Brady - 23
McNabb - 25
Rivers - 21

INTs
Cassel - 11
Ryan - 20
Flacco - 14
Brady - 14
McNabb - 12
Rivers - 15

Sacks
Cassel - 62
Ryan - 24
Flacco - 32
Brady - 31
McNabb - 39
Rivers - 22

What I get out of the stats.

While Cassel could certainly stand to improve his completion percentage and total yardage, he is doing a damn fine job of producing in this ****tarded offense. His completion and total yardage stats have been killed due to the fact that the man has zero time to set up and find an open receiver as shown by the sack numbers. I would love to know the number of times each QB was hurried and forced to run but if the sack numbers are any indication, Cassel would nearly double the amount of any of the QB's listed in this comparison. His mobility has likely saved him from another dozen or so sacks at the halfway mark.

People dog Cassel for being unable to throw the deep ball. Hopefully that argument was squelched a bit after the long pass to Chambers today whom he hit in stride for a TD. It is amazing what a competent QB can do when he has a bit of time and a receiver with reliable hands & a touch of speed.

Lastly, and probably of most importance for a team like the Chiefs who are in transition on both sides of the ball, Cassel takes care of the damn ball while still throwing TD's. Cassel is on pace to throw fewer interceptions than any of the QB's listed in the comparison despite his o-line's inability to keep him on his feet. In fact, he has thrown interceptions in only 2 of his 7 games played so far this season. Oh yeah... and though he has been sacked more than any of the QB's listed he has yet to lose a fumble.

I don't know what more you want from the guy.

It's not his fault 3/5 of his offensive line would not start on ANY other team in the NFL.

Its not his fault that his coach is calling a limp dick game offensively.

Its not his fault that his featured RB averaged a whopping 2.7 yards per carry with 0 TDs prior to his suspension and release.

Its not his fault his receivers can't get open.

Its not his fault he is having to pick himself up off the ground on half the passing plays.

I'm not claiming that this guy will be the next Manning, Brees, or Brady. I'm saying this guy COULD be a solid QB for seasons to come if he only had some protection.

I like to bitch about the team as much as the next feller but let's bitch about the players that deserved to be bitched about.

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Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-10-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Next time you're at a bar in KC order the MarkCastle & McCormick. Its McCormick vodka on the rocks stirred with the bartendars cock cuz this guy sucks the penis. To drink it you throw it back a foot over your head so it hits the guy behind you. MarkCastle & McCormick.

I am entertained and you are rep-richer from me having read this post!

ChiefsCountry · 11-10-2009, 10:16 PM

I would love to eat crow about Cassel, I really would. It sucks to watch the Chief suck monkey balls bc we have a shitty QB. I hope he takes us to Super Bowl and win the damn thing. I really do. I have major major doubts bc he does suck monkey balls but I hope he can make me eat so much crow.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 11-10-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I would love to eat crow about Cassel, I really would. It sucks to watch the Chief suck monkey balls bc we have a shitty QB. I hope he takes us to Super Bowl and win the damn thing. I really do. I have major major doubts bc he does suck monkey balls but I hope he can make me eat so much crow.

Me too.

Pioli Zombie · 11-10-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

I would love to eat crow about Cassel, I really would. It sucks to watch the Chief suck monkey balls bc we have a shitty QB. I hope he takes us to Super Bowl and win the damn thing. I really do. I have major major doubts bc he does suck monkey balls but I hope he can make me eat so much crow.

Yes. Cassel is the reason. With a good qb they would be 7-1. Their OL is as good as the Steelers. Yes.
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Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-10-2009, 10:37 PM

We'll see.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-10-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Yes. Cassel is the reason. With a good qb they would be 7-1. Their OL is as good as the Steelers. Yes.
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Are you going to be working 3rd shift damage control this evening or do you finally get off at 11:00?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-10-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Yes. Cassel is the reason. With a good qb they would be 7-1. Their OL is as good as the Steelers. Yes.
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The Steelers' OL sucks.

Pioli Zombie · 11-10-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The Steelers' OL sucks.

Sure. Its just as bad as the Chiefs. Sure.

That's why Mendenhall just ripped 155 on the Broncos.
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Pioli Zombie · 11-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots

Are you going to be working 3rd shift damage control this evening or do you finally get off at 11:00?

I don't know, are you on 3rd shift "Cassel is the reason the Chiefs suck" duty?
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chiefzilla1501 · 11-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The O-Line is bad, to be sure, but Cassel actually makes them look worse, becasue he has no pocket presense and begins to move away from phnatom pressure and checks down before he has to.

It's not phantom pressure. The guards are generally getting pushed back into his face on every play, and on almost half of the plays, our linemen (usually Albert) are getting crossed up on stunts. Our interior line is probably the worst in the NFL. And guess what--if your interior linemen get pushed back, then your QB has no pocket to step into. How can you have pocket presence if you don't have a pocket?

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He's 27, with 4 years of learning in the NFL behind him before his first year of starting.

Compare his numbers to Aaron Rogers.

Aaron Rodgers also has a RB who averages 4.2 YPC and two solid receivers in Greg Jennings and Donald Driver. He has much better players to throw to. But in terms of holding on to the ball too long, he's a lot worse than Cassel. The Chiefs have a worse o-line, and yet Rodgers is on pace to be sacked 74 times this season.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-10-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Sure. Its just as bad as the Chiefs. Sure.

That's why Mendenhall just ripped 155 on the Broncos.
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I've often wondered if it hurts to be stupid.

Can you tell me if there's physical pain involved?

Thanks in advance!

chiefzilla1501 · 11-10-2009, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Sure. Its just as bad as the Chiefs. Sure.

That's why Mendenhall just ripped 155 on the Broncos.
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Their line is not that good. Big Ben makes them look a lot better because they run quite a few spread sets and, more importantly, he's the hardest QB in the league to take down. Better than the Chiefs', but it's not good.

Pioli Zombie · 11-10-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've often wondered if it hurts to be stupid.

Can you tell me if there's physical pain involved?

Thanks in advance!

Didn't answer the point did you, moron?
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Pioli Zombie · 11-10-2009, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Their line is not that good. Big Ben makes them look a lot better because they run quite a few spread sets and, more importantly, he's the hardest QB in the league to take down. Better than the Chiefs', but it's not good.

The "The Chiefs suck because of Cassel" crowd simply amazes me. They have deluded themselves into thinking if Roethlisburger or Manning or Brady were the qb that the Chiefs would be a decent team. Ok, morons,whatever
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**DaneMcCloud** · 11-10-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Didn't answer the point did you, moron?
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Neither did you, moron.

The Steelers line sucks ass and has for years. Their running game has been stuck in neutral this season.

The Steelers are 15th in the league in rushing offense.

11-10-2009, 01:08 AM
pr_capone THREEPEAT!!! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: NWMO Casino cash: $9948214	Get of Mark Castle's back! First and foremost... I am no Cassel apologist but I am tired of reading posts just bashing Matt left and right. Here are the numbers. And before I get started... ** all this "garbage time" bullshit. EVERY QB in the league has garbage time stats so let's not get too wrapped up in that. It's not like teams have replaced all their starters with 2nd and 3rd stringers at the end of games on us. This is a statistical comparison of current QB's 2nd season as full time starters. Cassel, Ryan, & Flacco's stats are projected numbers of 16 games played in a season. Pay special attention to the TD, INT, and Sack numbers. Completions Cassel - 286 Ryan - 312 Flacco - 366 Brady - 373 McNabb - 285 Rivers - 277 Attempts Cassel - 514 Ryan - 514 Flacco - 564 Brady - 601 McNabb - 493 Rivers - 460 Completion Percentage Cassel - 55.6 Ryan - 60.9 Flacco - 64.9 Brady - 62.1 McNabb - 57.8 Rivers - 60.2 Yards Cassel - 2871 Ryan - 3568 Flacco - 4088 Brady - 3764 McNabb - 3233 Rivers - 3152 TDs Cassel - 23 Ryan - 26 Flacco - 24 Brady - 23 McNabb - 25 Rivers - 21 INTs Cassel - 11 Ryan - 20 Flacco - 14 Brady - 14 McNabb - 12 Rivers - 15 Sacks Cassel - 62 Ryan - 24 Flacco - 32 Brady - 31 McNabb - 39 Rivers - 22 What I get out of the stats. While Cassel could certainly stand to improve his completion percentage and total yardage, he is doing a damn fine job of producing in this **tarded offense. His completion and total yardage stats have been killed due to the fact that the man has zero time to set up and find an open receiver as shown by the sack numbers. I would love to know the number of times each QB was hurried and forced to run but if the sack numbers are any indication, Cassel would nearly double the amount of any of the QB's listed in this comparison. His mobility has likely saved him from another dozen or so sacks at the halfway mark. People dog Cassel for being unable to throw the deep ball. Hopefully that argument was squelched a bit after the long pass to Chambers today whom he hit in stride for a TD. It is amazing what a competent QB can do when he has a bit of time and a receiver with reliable hands & a touch of speed. Lastly, and probably of most importance for a team like the Chiefs who are in transition on both sides of the ball, Cassel takes care of the damn ball while still throwing TD's. Cassel is on pace to throw fewer interceptions than any of the QB's listed in the comparison despite his o-line's inability to keep him on his feet. In fact, he has thrown interceptions in only 2 of his 7 games played so far this season. Oh yeah... and though he has been sacked more than any of the QB's listed he has yet to lose a fumble. I don't know what more you want from the guy. It's not his fault 3/5 of his offensive line would not start on ANY other team in the NFL. Its not his fault that his coach is calling a limp dick game offensively. Its not his fault that his featured RB averaged a whopping 2.7 yards per carry with 0 TDs prior to his suspension and release. Its not his fault his receivers can't get open. Its not his fault he is having to pick himself up off the ground on half the passing plays. I'm not claiming that this guy will be the next Manning, Brees, or Brady. I'm saying this guy COULD be a solid QB for seasons to come if he only had some protection. I like to bitch about the team as much as the next feller but let's bitch about the players that deserved to be bitched about. [/rant]
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