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Old 11-10-2009, 08:01 PM   #1
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The guy doesnt have time to check every ****ing receiver because he has exactly no time from the second the ball is snapped to the point where he has to get rid of it.
The O-Line is bad, to be sure, but Cassel actually makes them look worse, becasue he has no pocket presense and begins to move away from phnatom pressure and checks down before he has to.

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What the **** do you want him to do? Float on a god damn cloud until one of the DBs trips and falls finally allowing someone to get open?[/qoute]

What I want him to do is to actually stand in the pocket when he does have time and actually go through his progressions.



Yup... coming into this week 4 of those teams were at 4-3 or worse. ****ing powerhouses there.... no doubt.



This is his second year starting. Him being 27 does not translate to on the field experience nor does it translate to him leading the football equivalent of the bad news bears.
He's 27, with 4 years of learning in the NFL behind him before his first year of starting.

Compare his numbers to Aaron Rogers.



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Of course his YPA is awful! His coach is calling ****ing dump offs on 3rd and 19 and he doesnt have time to let his receivers get open. You know that stuff that Charlie and his grandfather drank in Willy Wonka that made them float is fake, right?
His coach isn't calling all those dumpoffs.
He's making those decisions.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:20 PM   #2
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The O-Line is bad, to be sure, but Cassel actually makes them look worse, becasue he has no pocket presense and begins to move away from phnatom pressure and checks down before he has to.
No pocket presence???

The guy has avoided more sacks than Manning will be hurried all year. If not for his pocket presence and mobility... he would be setting records for being sacked the most in a single season.

As it stands, he is on pace to be sacked 10 fewer times than the current record.


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He's 27, with 4 years of learning in the NFL behind him before his first year of starting.

Compare his numbers to Aaron Rogers.
Compare the weapons each has. Also, there was a point last night were they showed Rogers getting 5.4 ****ing seconds to find his receiver and throw. Matt is generally under pressure from the moment the ball is snapped.

Also, he has had 3 years of bench time where he threw all of 39 passes.

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His coach isn't calling all those dumpoffs.
He's making those decisions.
I could be wrong but those dumpoffs on 3rd and 19 look like designed plays and I'm not the only one to say that.

Even if it is his decision, the majority of the time he is throwing them out of necessity because he has defenders crawling up his ass.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:32 PM   #3
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No pocket presence???

The guy has avoided more sacks than Manning will be hurried all year. If not for his pocket presence and mobility... he would be setting records for being sacked the most in a single season.

As it stands, he is on pace to be sacked 10 fewer times than the current record.




Compare the weapons each has. Also, there was a point last night were they showed Rogers getting 5.4 ****ing seconds to find his receiver and throw. Matt is generally under pressure from the moment the ball is snapped.

Also, he has had 3 years of bench time where he threw all of 39 passes.



I could be wrong but those dumpoffs on 3rd and 19 look like designed plays and I'm not the only one to say that.

Even if it is his decision, the majority of the time he is throwing them out of necessity because he has defenders crawling up his ass.
Comparing Cassel to PM right now is not good for you.

PMs line is not as good as you make it seem to be, his release and elite level of preparation let him expose teams when they blitz..making teams shy away from doing so. That takes the pressure off the oline.

Cassel would be helping in this area if he was better prepared and had better chemistry with his receivers. Hopefully, that comes in time.

When Cassel gets blitzed, he stops looking at his receivers and looks at the rush. You will notice that if you watch for it for now on.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:38 PM   #4
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When Cassel gets blitzed, he stops looking at his receivers and looks at the rush. You will notice that if you watch for it for now on.
ya, he hasn't taken any hits while releasing the ball.
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Old 11-10-2009, 08:47 PM   #5
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Comparing Cassel to PM right now is not good for you.

PMs line is not as good as you make it seem to be, his release and elite level of preparation let him expose teams when they blitz..making teams shy away from doing so. That takes the pressure off the oline.

Cassel would be helping in this area if he was better prepared and had better chemistry with his receivers. Hopefully, that comes in time.

When Cassel gets blitzed, he stops looking at his receivers and looks at the rush. You will notice that if you watch for it for now on.
Can you read?

I'm not comparing Cassel to Manning.

I said

CASSEL HAS AVOIDED MORE SACKS THAN MANNING WILL BE HURRIED ALL YEAR.

How in the living **** is that comparing the two?

**** me! My special ed students have better reading comprehension than you do.
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:46 PM   #6
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The O-Line is bad, to be sure, but Cassel actually makes them look worse, becasue he has no pocket presense and begins to move away from phnatom pressure and checks down before he has to.
It's not phantom pressure. The guards are generally getting pushed back into his face on every play, and on almost half of the plays, our linemen (usually Albert) are getting crossed up on stunts. Our interior line is probably the worst in the NFL. And guess what--if your interior linemen get pushed back, then your QB has no pocket to step into. How can you have pocket presence if you don't have a pocket?

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He's 27, with 4 years of learning in the NFL behind him before his first year of starting.

Compare his numbers to Aaron Rogers.
Aaron Rodgers also has a RB who averages 4.2 YPC and two solid receivers in Greg Jennings and Donald Driver. He has much better players to throw to. But in terms of holding on to the ball too long, he's a lot worse than Cassel. The Chiefs have a worse o-line, and yet Rodgers is on pace to be sacked 74 times this season.
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