Chiefs Lions "might make a place" for Dorsey - Page 3

Marco Polo · 01-20-2010, 03:09 PM

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf...ons_rooki.html

Phil: I've heard on more than one occasion that the Lions should swing a deal for DT Glenn Dorsey. I haven't heard much from him in Kansas City, what has he done? What could his trade value be and why would the Chiefs trade him since they spent a 2008 1st round pick on him?
Tom Kowalski: Lions defensive coordinator Gunther Cunningham was on the Chiefs' staff when Kansas City drafted him and Cunningham really likes the kid. The reason he might be available is because the Chiefs drafted Dorsey as a 4-3 defensive tackle and they've now switched schemes and he's playing a 3-4 end. Neither the Chiefs nor Dorsey is apparently happy with the results and that's why I think the Lions might make a play for him in the off-season. I still think it's a longshot, but it's a shot worth taking.
As for trade value, I'm not sure what he'd cost. I think you might see something a little creative, like swapping of picks in a round or two, as opposed to a straight-up one-for-one deal. We'll see if this heats up as we get closer to the draft.

EDIT: I meant "might make a play" but don't know how to change the subject.

CoMoChief · 01-20-2010, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

no way. That guy's a bigger bust than Dorsey. Had him on my fantasy team riding the bench behind Chambers and Bowe.

r u serious?

**BossChief** · 01-20-2010, 04:07 PM

Dorsey and a second for the #2 pick and draft Suh and then Berry/McClain at #5.

I like Dorsey, but he will never be what he should be in this scheme, even though he will undoubtedly be a solid player in it. Suh could be a star and paired with Berry at safety or McClain at ILB would make this defense pretty good sooner rather than later and we would all of a sudden have a identity on defense.

If they would do it for Calvin straight up, that would be a deal.

I think some here have his value pegged way too low.

DBOSHO · 01-20-2010, 04:08 PM

Why would suh be any better than dorsey in a 3-4?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-20-2010, 04:09 PM

@ anyone who thinks this organization is happy about paying another Top 5 pick this year, much less TWO.

Here's the question I've yet to see asked:

IF we were to trade Dorsey, how much guaranteed money do we still owe him?

ToxSocks · 01-20-2010, 04:11 PM

Ok, uhm, so the Chiefs aren't happy with Dorsey yet Haley consistantly praises him.

**BossChief** · 01-20-2010, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

@ anyone who thinks this organization is happy about paying another Top 5 pick this year, much less TWO.

Here's the question I've yet to see asked:

IF we were to trade Dorsey, how much guaranteed money do we still owe him?

I guess I was just looking at it from a "how can we improve our football team" instead of "how can we improve our team while saving money" Suh could be an all pro defender where Dorsey in this scheme can be a 1-2 time probowler at best...again, in my opinion. Laugh all you want, I have very thick skin bud.

I should have added a disclaimer that I believe they will get this 2 year CBA extension in place that includes a rookie slotting system that will be implemented for this years draft class. So much depends on the CBA deal that everything is ultimately nothing more than speculation right now to the utmost. My posts in this thread and others in it are no different.

All Im saying is IMO the difference between Suh in this scheme and Dorsey in it is worth a second rounder, even in a draft that will feature some great prospects in that round.

RedThat · 01-20-2010, 04:22 PM

Yeah like the Lions are going trade away Calvin Johnson for Glenn Dorsey. Get ****ing real

Consistent1 · 01-20-2010, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Dorsey and a second for the #2 pick and draft Suh and then Berry/McClain at #5.

I like Dorsey, but he will never be what he should be in this scheme, even though he will undoubtedly be a solid player in it. Suh could be a star and paired with Berry at safety or McClain at ILB would make this defense pretty good sooner rather than later and we would all of a sudden have a identity on defense.

If they would do it for Calvin straight up, that would be a deal.

I think some here have his value pegged way too low.

Calvin Johnson for Dorsey? C'mon guys that is great wishful thinking and all, but damn......

**BossChief** · 01-20-2010, 04:24 PM

I was just following the herd on the megatron thing...

FAX · 01-20-2010, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

@ anyone who thinks this organization is happy about paying another Top 5 pick this year, much less TWO.

Here's the question I've yet to see asked:

IF we were to trade Dorsey, how much guaranteed money do we still owe him?

I'm counting on some kind of base compensation agreement for rookies next year. Honestly, that's the only way I can see Clark not arguing for a trade down. It wouldn't be so bad if we were paying for impact players, but we're not ... we, apparently, have been paying high draft pick money for role playing type guys.

FAX

MOhillbilly · 01-20-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Ok, uhm, so the Chiefs aren't happy with Dorsey yet Haley consistantly praises him.

could be locker room BS.

Hootie · 01-20-2010, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DBOSHO

Straight up for calvin or a 1 and a 3.

Dorsey is getting better, and he will most likely get even stronger this offseason.

this is the kid that argues with me?

straight up for Calvin?

Hahahahahahaha

This isn't madden buddy.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-20-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

this is the kid that argues with me?

straight up for Calvin?

Hahahahahahaha

This isn't madden buddy.

You'd get laughed at for suggesting CJ-for-Dorsey in Madden too.

MOhillbilly · 01-20-2010, 04:30 PM

last ditch effort for gunther, he politics his ass off, KC gets heavy compensation.

Mr. Laz · 01-20-2010, 04:33 PM

mofo's can lick my taint if they think swapping picks(trading up 3 picks)in any round is gonna be enough to get dorsey.

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01-20-2010, 04:07 PM	#32
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1595912	Dorsey and a second for the #2 pick and draft Suh and then Berry/McClain at #5. I like Dorsey, but he will never be what he should be in this scheme, even though he will undoubtedly be a solid player in it. Suh could be a star and paired with Berry at safety or McClain at ILB would make this defense pretty good sooner rather than later and we would all of a sudden have a identity on defense. If they would do it for Calvin straight up, that would be a deal. I think some here have his value pegged way too low. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2181115	@ anyone who thinks this organization is happy about paying another Top 5 pick this year, much less TWO. Here's the question I've yet to see asked: IF we were to trade Dorsey, how much guaranteed money do we still owe him?
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ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2123063	Ok, uhm, so the Chiefs aren't happy with Dorsey yet Haley consistantly praises him. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah like the Lions are going trade away Calvin Johnson for Glenn Dorsey. Get ****ing real
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