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Old 09-21-2011, 07:26 AM  
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Old 09-21-2011, 04:59 PM   #181
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:02 PM   #182
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:07 PM   #183
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1,000 yards, that's funny!
We are gonna be a rushing team and he will get a lot of the carries Charles would have gotten.

Just watch how it plays out...1000 yards or IR.
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And to be fair, BossChief, I was only praising Pioli for some solid free agency moves. Those posts were not indicative of my overall feeling towards the guy, which hasn't changed since the 2nd round of the 2010 draft.
Bullshit.

You called him a balla ass gm when it came to the last draft, free agency the fact that we had a playoff year that very few thought was possible (and then flip flopped right before the playoffs with the frauds stuff). Basically leading into this year. For me and many others, that hasnt changed and time will show that the guy has made a lot more solid moves than bad ones.

He busted out with Tyson Jackson, but also just had a draft where he got tremendous value for each and every ****ing pick...many of them were thought of as first round talents.

He busted on the trade fro Cassel, but if history shows us anything it shows us that picking QBs isn't an exact science.

Ya just cant tell just how someone is gonna respond to getting a check that means he and his family for generations are set for money until he gets that check. Some feel they have arrived...others drive to be great...Cassel is the former.

Has SP made mistakes? Of course, what GM hasn't?

Its better to stick by your guns and be wrong than it is to keep changing your opinion due to perception and be "right".

For me, I think that this team starts to look drastically different once Stanzi starts his first game and that Pioli gets the credit for rectifying the quarterback situation with Stanzi/Luck.

Of course, people will probably say that he fell into those picks once they turn this franchise around...just the way it is, I guess.
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That is wrong, wrong wrong.

I called them frauds pretty much the whole year after the Denver debacle. I NEVER backed off from that.

Then I gave Pioli credit for a good draft and FA.

And then they proved they were definitely frauds at the beginning of this year.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:25 PM   #185
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That is wrong, wrong wrong.

I called them frauds pretty much the whole year after the Denver debacle. I NEVER backed off from that.

Then I gave Pioli credit for a good draft and FA.

And then they proved they were definitely frauds at the beginning of this year.
Read your sig FFS.

If this team is a superbowl contender with Luck, that says the roster has been significantly upgraded since Herm/CP and 2-14

Do you think things like that would be said about teams like the one Pioli took over?
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:28 PM   #186
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No, it says that Luck is a BAMF.

Who won't throw the ball to McBuster.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:29 PM   #187
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Read your sig FFS.

If this team is a superbowl contender with Luck, that says the roster has been significantly upgraded since Herm/CP and 2-14

Do you think things like that would be said about teams like the one Pioli took over?
The core of this team is pretty much the same players that were on the roster when Pioli took the reins.
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Yes, I was very excited with the draft.

That doesn't change shit. It's like being excited that Cassel threw a 75-yard TD last year. He still sucks shit.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:41 PM   #190
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The core of this team is pretty much the same players that were on the roster when Pioli took the reins.
Yeah, except the coaches Pioli brought in got all of them to play well above the level they were playing at prior to Piolis arrival. If he deserves the credit for the mad moves, then he should also receive the credit for the positive moves he has made with this organization as well.

Its too bad this is the year of the blown ACL/Achilles or Moeaki and Berry would absolutely be entering that group going into their second year...along with Asamoah (who just handled the best DL in football)...while Arenas may not be playing the biggest impact position, he has been solid and is surely part of this defense long term. Dexter McCluster might step into that this year as well, in Charles absence.

Time will tell.

Its still in its infancy, but the 2011 draft looks to have potential to be every bit as good as the 2008 draft, maybe even better.

I think the Pioli hate on this board is reaching silly levels.
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Yeah, except the coaches Pioli brought in got all of them to play well above the level they were playing at prior to Piolis arrival. If he deserves the credit for the mad moves, then he should also receive the credit for the positive moves he has made with this organization as well.

Its too bad this is the year of the blown ACL/Achilles or Moeaki and Berry would absolutely be entering that group going into their second year...along with Asamoah (who just handled the best DL in football)...while Arenas may not be playing the biggest impact position, he has been solid and is surely part of this defense long term. Dexter McCluster might step into that this year as well, in Charles absence.

Time will tell.

Its still in its infancy, but the 2011 draft looks to have potential to be every bit as good as the 2008 draft, maybe even better.

I think the Pioli hate on this board is reaching silly levels.
Just pointing out that the roster was not devoid of talent when Pioli took over.

Still hate the 2010 2nd round, but agree about the potential of this draft.

I stiil believe Haley is going to be a good coach when he figures some things out, and fully believe he deserves credit for raising the level of play from the guys that were here.
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Old 09-21-2011, 06:24 PM   #193
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Just pointing out that the roster was not devoid of talent when Pioli took over.

Still hate the 2010 2nd round, but agree about the potential of this draft.

I stiil believe Haley is going to be a good coach when he figures some things out, and fully believe he deserves credit for raising the level of play from the guys that were here.
I agree with you on all points. If it was in your hands, would you leave Pioli in charge? I personally am still willing to trust him as long as he does the right thing with the QB situation.
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I agree with you on all points. If it was in your hands, would you leave Pioli in charge. I personally am still willing to trust him as long as he does the right thing with the QB situation.
This.

I'm not happy with a lot of the things he's done but if he replaces Cassel I'm willing to give him a little more time. If he replaces him with Luck, even more time.
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I'm not happy with a lot of the things he's done but if he replaces Cassel I'm willing to give him a little more time. If he replaces him with Luck, even more time.
Exactly. I can over look Cassel, Jackson, ect. as long as he hits on the next QB. It has to be a clear cut hit though.

I like Haley overall too. I think if you give him a QB to stretch the field we have something. He just needs to figure out what the hell is going on with the OC situation. That offseason situation won't happen again so we don't really have to worry about that.

This roster, as bad as it is in some spots, still has a TON of talent. You add a guy like Luck and all of a sudden our Oline, Breaston, Bowe, Moeaki, and Baldwin all get that much better(assuming Luck is who he is supposed to be). A franchise QB makes the GM's job so much easier.
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