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Old 11-30-2011, 01:06 PM  
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Palko told he is starting in Chicago.



Todd Haley = massive buffoon.

I hope we can all move on from supporting this clown now.

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Old 12-03-2011, 10:06 PM   #556
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I'm not convinced that anyone in the Chiefs organization recognize that Cassel is the problem.
I also am afreaid of this.


Maybe since it's been three years and he hasn't really been what we hoped we will move on.
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Old 12-03-2011, 10:36 PM   #557
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I'm not convinced that anyone in the Chiefs organization recognize that Cassel is the problem.
To my mind, the assumption that they don't is experientially implausible, Mr. milkman. Pioli was up close and personal with Brady and Haley's most recent quarterback was Warner who is now a close friend of his.

But, if they don't recognize that Cassel is a moron, we're in a heap of trouble and will be for a long, long time.

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Old 12-03-2011, 11:23 PM   #558
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I'm not convinced that anyone in the Chiefs organization recognize that Cassel is the problem.
Which is why the key is to use Orton to prove that Cassel was the problem. I do believe that Orton comes with much less of a smoochy-smooch "we will keep you around because Pioli loves you" type of baggage.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:32 PM   #559
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I want this team to win the Super Bowl. It's not going to do that with Orton, Cassel, Palko, or Stanzi.

This team needs to lose, and it needs to lose in a fashion that points to the fact that we simply can't ignore the QB situation.
ugghh, true, but i'm so OVER shifting my expectations like a manual.
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Old 12-03-2011, 11:32 PM   #560
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To my mind, the assumption that they don't is experientially implausible, Mr. milkman. Pioli was up close and personal with Brady and Haley's most recent quarterback was Warner who is now a close friend of his.

But, if they don't recognize that Cassel is a moron, we're in a heap of trouble and will be for a long, long time.

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Pioli was also up close and personal with Cassel in NE. Yep, our GM knows talent.
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Pioli was also up close and personal with Cassel in NE. Yep, our GM knows talent.
Point me in the direction of the GM who hits a homerun every at bat.
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Point me in the direction of the GM who hits a homerun every at bat.
This wasn't a 89 mph slider with incredible bite. Pioli watched this scrub for years against other NFL players and decided that he should be our starting QB, in a move that Carl himself would applaud.

This isn't analogous to missing in the draft, even if we're discussing selecting a midget or 5-tech, which we love.
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This wasn't a 89 mph slider with incredible bite. Pioli watched this scrub for years against other NFL players and decided that he should be our starting QB, in a move that Carl himself would applaud.

This isn't analogous to missing in the draft, even if we're discussing selecting a midget or 5-tech, which we love.
Years?
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Years?
Yes. 2005-08. Despite popular opinion, Cassel wasn't "essentially a rookie" when he arrived in KC.
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Yes. 2005-08. Despite popular opinion, Cassel wasn't "essentially a rookie" when he arrived in KC.
Cassel got 1 year. In that year he put up good numbers. The rest of the time he was holding a clip board.

Pioli took a shot because the Chiefs needed a QB and it was obvious NE wasn't going to be able to keep Cassel. It hasn't worked out the way anyone hoped.

Shit happens all the time.
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Cassel got 1 year. In that year he put up good numbers. The rest of the time he was holding a clip board.

Pioli took a shot because the Chiefs needed a QB and it was obvious NE wasn't going to be able to keep Cassel.
So, Cassel wasn't allowed to practice his first three years in NE?

Pioli acquired Cassel and subsequently signed him to an extension because he thought he was good. And he was wrong in a disconcertingly big way.
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So, Cassel wasn't allowed to practice his first three years in NE?
You mean the practices where you aren't allowed to go near the QB? My bad. I guess I forgot about those.
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You mean the practices where you aren't allowed to go near the QB? My bad. I guess I forgot about those.
Yeah, we should totally give Pioli a pass. I mean, being able to evaluate a player for four years really isn't much. Shit happens.
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So, Cassel wasn't allowed to practice his first three years in NE?

Pioli acquired Cassel and subsequently signed him to an extension because he thought he was good. And he was wrong in a disconcertingly big way.
I think it's a very fair point that the Chiefs were bad at a really, really, really shitty time. Probably some of the worst string of QB classes in consecutive years.
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Yeah, we should totally give Pioli a pass. I mean, being able to evaluate a player for four years really isn't much. Shit happens.
Who said anything about giving him a pass, you idiot?

He doesn't deserve a pass for the QB but he also doesn't deserve heat for the QB. Name a QB that would put the Chiefs in a better position today that was available when we traded for Cassel.
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