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yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:54 PM   #826
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I really ****ing hate the idiots on this board sometimes.

Defend Haley, sure. Defend Cassel, sure.

Defend Palko?

My tolerance limit has been reached.
I'm serious.

There's sane, and then there's defending Palko.

He's not better than anyone in the NFL. Not one single QB. He's the worst there is. He's like Jonathan Quinn wrapped in a Tyler Thigpen flavor. It makes me want to vomit.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:55 PM   #827
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I can't believe there are people are arguing about which shitty QB is less shitty.
Isn't that we have been doing with KC QBs and their backups since Trent Green?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #828
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I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow anyone.


Wow.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #829
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I think this run by Tebow will end up helping the rest of the AFCW longterm more than DEN. I don't see Tebow becoming good enough to beat defenses once they find a decent way to contain him.
It's really not about containing Tebow. He's been contained just about every week and then the opposing team just decides to abandon everything they've been doing for 3 1/2 quarters.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:56 PM   #830
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Who said anything defending Palko? Palko is ****ing horrible but he's not put in the same position as Tebow. Put Palko on the Broncos and they enjoy the same success.

Put Tebow on the Chiefs and you aren't sitting here washing his balls like he's something special.
Are you serious?

Palko doesn't have the physical ability to make the plays with his legs that TeBow has, and he's an even worse passer when he's running than when he's in the pocket.

That is the real reason they aren't utilizing his athletic ability to get out of the pocket.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:57 PM   #831
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Charlie Weis did jack.

Once again, I point out that this offense averaged 20+ points a game with Jamaal Charles, and 13+ without since Haley took over in '09.

Charlie Weis had the benefit of a full season with Charles and one of the sofest schedules ever.

It's a sad commentary on Scott Pioli and his chioce of Matt Cassel.
I disagree. Weis makes Haley look like a clown.

Todd Haley is an incompetent douchebag. Playing a hurry up offense when you are averaging 1.4 yards a play is beyond stupid.

It's time for him to be canned.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:00 PM   #832
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I disagree. Weis makes Haley look like a clown.

Todd Haley is an incompetent douchebag. Playing a hurry up offense when you are averaging 1.4 yards a play is beyond stupid.

It's time for him to be canned.
I'm not arguing against firing Haley.

At this point, I don't care.

But to argue that Weis did anything for this offense is shortsighted, at best.

Like I said, he benefitted from a full season of Charles and a soft schedule.

Against the better teams on that schedule, this offense's ineptitude. specifically Cassel, was on full display.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:04 PM   #833
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How come people use the 2010 season as proof of Weis but don't mention the OAK and BAL games? Does everyone just take it as fact that Haley took over the offense at that point?
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:04 PM   #834
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I'm not arguing against firing Haley.

At this point, I don't care.

But to argue that Weis did anything for this offense is shortsighted, at best.

Like I said, he benefitted from a full season of Charles and a soft schedule.

Against the better teams on that schedule, this offense's ineptitude. specifically Cassel, was on full display.
Nobody with a brain expected Kc to win more than 9 games. That was the MOST I expected KC to pull out with our schedule, and that was when our best players weren't on IR.

The fact that anyone is shocked we're a 5 win team without these guys is simply amazing to me.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:06 PM   #835
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What's wrong with a flea flicker? I've seen them go for big yards.


They end in a sack about 10 times more often than a TD. Furthermore, a flea flicker will NEVER work when you can't run the ball.
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It was talked about before the year, how you can't look at this schedule and think it's gonna be a murder.

Teams aren't as good as predicted teams are better than predicted.

We lost 3 of our best players and our starting qb and people act like we should still be a sb contending team.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:07 PM   #837
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I think marching a veteran backup sends a different signal than marching out an unexperienced rookie from the scout team when your team is still on the bubble.
Tyler Palko is a "veteran backup".

Nothing more needs to be said.
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And that bubble burst. Time for Stanzi.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:09 PM   #839
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Nobody with a brain expected Kc to win more than 9 games. That was the MOST I expected KC to pull out with our schedule, and that was when our best players weren't on IR.

The fact that anyone is shocked we're a 5 win team without these guys is simply amazing to me.
It is not that they are losing it is how they are losing.
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And that bubble burst. Time for Stanzi.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't Stanzi or Orton. I'm guessing it will be Orton.
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