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View Poll Results: Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?
yes, it would be a mistake. Haley deserves a shot with a healthy squad he built. 142 61.21%
No. Ive seen enough. Next, please. 79 34.05%
Im not voting in any of these things till I see what GAZ thinks. 11 4.74%
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Old 12-07-2011, 11:54 PM  
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Would it be a mistake to fire Todd Haley?

I started the year in full support of Haley. This team was developing into one of the better teams in football and were young across the board...despite being handcuffed to Matt Cassel. The growth in almost all of our young talent was apparent and easily recognizable.

His fiery attitude is infectious and the team plays with that emotion and passion. Haleys motivational skills are up there with about anyones.

For that, I was willing to overlook his mismanagement of situational football and a few other deficiencies that come with a first time coach and assumed that he would improve in those areas, with experience.

This is one hell of a hard season to judge because of the lack of an offseason. I am willing to give him a partial pass on the early part of the schedule because I still believe it was the right plan if we are looking at the long term big picture. It just sucks that we coincidentally ran into the injury bug at crucial positions early on.

All that said, his offense is embarrassing to watch while Romeos defense is seemingly entering GOD mode without, arguably, its best player. Everyone on earth (sans Haley, seemingly) can see that Palko has no place in the NFL and Haley is seemingly OK with betting half the year on him. I dont understand what Haley sees from a quarterback that has the weakest arm Ive ever seen in the NFL.

I still think that Haley deserves a shot at it with a real quarterback. This team is giving good effort and I think most agree it would be a contender with a real quarterback. Who could have this team in position to contend with these quarterbacks (Im not even gonna touch the Stanzi situation)?

I guess the way we deal with the remaining 4 games plays a lot into this, but at this point I think it would be a mistake to fire Haley either during or after this year, but I can see why someone would disagree with that opinion and thats why I want to see how a poll on this topic shakes out.

Do YOU think it would be a mistake to fire Todd Haley and replace him prior to next year?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:39 PM   #796
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So let me get this straight. Tebow leads three drives to win the game in the 4th quarter and OT today and he can't play. Three drives in which Denver was constantly passing.

Palko scores TDs via divine intervention and Jerheme Urban shining sunlight on his dog's ass, but he's better than Tebow.

Palko led a TD drive in the 4th as well.

Tebow is god ****ing awful. Start watching all 4 quarters of a Broncos game.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:39 PM   #797
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Boring. Get back to me with a valid argument.
Are you seriously arguing that TD's and turnovers are not valid to the success/failure of a team or a QB?

Wow, you're dumber than I thought.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:40 PM   #798
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You got 3 pretty good WR's. The best WR core we've had in awhile and a decent O-line. There should have been more than 3 touchdowns scored in the last 28 QTRS.
I can't believe it when folks say the Chiefs have a "decent" OL. It's $hit with at least 2 out of 5 needing to be replaced (possibly 3) and the LT, who is a "keeper" will never be anything more than adequate at the position. But having said that, I agree about there should have been more than 3 TD's in 28quarters. This has been a totally $hiy - wasted year. Nothing at all has been gained.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:40 PM   #799
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Prevent defense is a wonderful thing.
The Vikings weren't playing prevent defense.

Tebow was scorching them down the field for big gains.

You don't even watch Broncos games.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:41 PM   #800
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So let me get this straight. Tebow leads three drives to win the game in the 4th quarter and OT today and he can't play. Three drives in which Denver was constantly passing.

Palko scores TDs via divine intervention and Jerheme Urban shining sunlight on his dog's ass, but he's better than Tebow.

Well it seems Tebow may have the ultimate divine intervention.

What it comes down to is this, if I had to win a game tomorrow for 1 game only, I am taking Tebow. I still think the league will catch up to him, but if we are comparing him to Palko, I am taking Tebow for that game.

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Prevent defense is a wonderful thing.
Its not like Palko doesn't face prevent defenses in certain situations. The PIT game would be the same as what Tebow faces every 4th quarter comeback.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:41 PM   #801
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I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow.


Wow.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #802
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The Vikings weren't playing prevent defense.

Tebow was scorching them down the field for big gains.

You don't even watch Broncos games.
I don't think you do. Considering you are sitting here washing Tebows balls for his passing ability.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #803
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The Vikings weren't playing prevent defense.

Tebow was scorching them down the field for big gains.

You don't even watch Broncos games.
Minnesota's secondary is awful. Guys were WIDE open. Were YOU watching?
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:43 PM   #804
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I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow.


Wow.
Palko is a better passer.

Tebow is a better runner.

Tebow is continually bailed out by his defense because they keep the game close. Then Tebow can come in in the 4th against prevent defense and take all the glory. Tebow is constantly 2 of 15 up until the 4th quarter.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:44 PM   #805
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These are all excuses. With Weis this offense would have been better, with McDaniels this offense would have been better. When you chase the first guy out and reject the 2nd guy you better be able to put together a competent offense. When you finish drafting in the top 10 and your team has only scored 3 touchdowns in 2 months you've dug your own hole.
Charlie Weis did jack.

Once again, I point out that this offense averaged 20+ points a game with Jamaal Charles, and 13+ without since Haley took over in '09.

Charlie Weis had the benefit of a full season with Charles and one of the sofest schedules ever.

It's a sad commentary on Scott Pioli and his chioce of Matt Cassel.
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Also look at the teams Tebow has beat. He did beat the Jets, but other than that........
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Tebow is continually bailed out by his defense because they keep the game close. Then Tebow can come in in the 4th against prevent defense and take all the glory. Tebow is constantly 2 of 15 up until the 4th quarter.
I can't disagree with any of this, but the fact remains that Tebow rises to the occasion when given the opportunity.
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I can't believe it when folks say the Chiefs have a "decent" OL. It's $hit with at least 2 out of 5 needing to be replaced (possibly 3) and the LT, who is a "keeper" will never be anything more than adequate at the position. But having said that, I agree about there should have been more than 3 TD's in 28quarters. This has been a totally $hiy - wasted year. Nothing at all has been gained.
The OL is not that much of a problem. Shitty QB play can make a line look much worse than it is. Palko was today. He was holding the ball way too long.
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Old 12-11-2011, 08:46 PM   #809
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I can't believe that someone believes that Palko is better than Tebow.


Wow.
No kidding. I would take Tebow any day of the week over Palko. Hell even over Cassel. The kid is a winner
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Palko is a better passer.
Based on his completion percentage, huh?

He can't throw down the field to save his life.

Tebow's actually decent at it. (see the Vikings game)

No, sorry. Palko is one of the worst passers in the game. You are an idiot if you believe anything else.
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