KK wrong about success of ASG

[KingPriest2]

Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game?

Now he s saying that he expected it

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Enjoy paying out the ass for a stadium in Raytown so that a billionaire in Arkansas can get even wealthier, then.

I already pay out the ass so a billionaire from Texas gets wealthier. His name is Clark Hunt.

So that's not a big deal in KC.

No doubt Glass sucks. The Royals will be the Wal-Mart of baseball as long as he owns the team. Until he croaks, or sells it, we're stuck with it. Might as well just let Kauffman be Kauffman. It's got plenty of bars to drink your baseball blues away.

And the sports complex is in KCMO, not Raytown. You're severely geographically challenged.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by -King-

....and they're 23rd in attendance.

This year. Of course, they had a fire sale. But new ownership on the way.

But look at the first 2-3 years.

Oh, and it's San diego.....where there's 100 other things to do at the same time.....where the weather is near perfect every day to do those other things.

EDIT: I did the research for you.....SD ranked 15th - 20th range 2008-2010. In 2010, they drew about 500,000 more for the year than the royals.....with nearly half the payroll of the Royals.

Hmmm?

[gblowfish]

I can't believe we're still arguing about where the baseball stadium should be. Pointless waste of time.

[Mizzou_8541]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Aside from the booing, MLB must have loved our production of the ASG. Sold out the futures game, fanfest was huge, the parade was packed, and the HR Derby and ASG looked terrific and were filled with passionate baseball fans, who were not just out there to be in the social spotlight or be part of the social elite.

I thought the booing as the best part, by far.

[007]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm sure all 13 people who tailgate at Thursday evening Royals games are glad to have a parking lot the size of Andorra in which to throw washers.

I have tailgated at every single Royals game I have ever been to going all the way back to 1988.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by Guru

I have tailgated at every single Royals game I have ever been to going all the way back to 1988.

Good for you man. That's awesome.

[milkman]

Back in '79-'80, I was managing a 7-11.

It was about a 35-40 minute drive to get the the games, and I went to about 30-40 games a year.

I had no interest in going anywhere to drink after, because of the drive, and because I had to be at work the next morning at 6am.

These are the people who aren't going to games now.

Why make that drive, or even longer drives, to see a shitty product.

Those downtown patrons aren't going to make that big a difference.

It's the people who have to make the drive that are going to make the difference in attendence.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I could care less if your drive from Olathe is inconvenient.

A dowtown stadium wouldn't improve the drive for anybody anyways. Its a pain to go downtown when there is a concert. Be so much worse with games going on. I like where the stadiums are and how many different access points there are. I especially love the entrance not many people seem to know about when driving from south on 435 and then getting off onto the Raytown Rd exit. You get off the highway and have parked within five minutes.

Sure people working down there could catch a game, but considering its not exactly a huge downtown how many people extra is that really? Any difference a downtown stadium would make in attendance would be multiplied significantly by a winning team.

[God of Thunder]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I can't believe we're still arguing about where the baseball stadium should be. Pointless waste of time.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by milkman

Back in '79-'80, I was managing a 7-11.

It was about a 35-40 minute drive to get the the games, and I went to about 30-40 games a year.

I had no interest in going anywhere to drink after, because of the drive, and because I had to be at work the next morning at 6am.

These are the people who aren't going to games now.

Why make that drive, or even longer drives, to see a shitty product.

Those downtown patrons aren't going to make that big a difference.

It's the people who have to make the drive that are going to make the difference in attendence.

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

A dowtown stadium wouldn't improve the drive for anybody anyways. Its a pain to go downtown when there is a concert. Be so much worse with games going on. I like where the stadiums are and how many different access points there are. I especially love the entrance not many people seem to know about when driving from south on 435 and then getting off onto the Raytown Rd exit. You get off the highway and have parked within five minutes.

Sure people working down there could catch a game, but considering its not exactly a huge downtown how many people extra is that really? Any difference a downtown stadium would make in attendance would be multiplied significantly by a winning team.

Kansas City: Come for the parking, stay for the lack of traffic

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Kansas City: Come for the parking, stay for the lack of traffic

So how many more people a year would the K average if it was downtown?

They'd get maybe 3 thousand more per game if the game was downtown. As long as they lose 90 games per year, it wouldn't matter if the stadium was downtown, uptown or lefttown.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

That same airport is rated in the top 5 midsize International Airports every year so seems like you're the only one complaining.

I guess you also hate the Yankees for having a stadium in the Bronx instead of Manhattan. Or the Jets/Giants for having a stadium in New ****ing Jersey. Or the 49ers for building a stadium in Santa Clara. Or the Cowboys Stadium for being in Arlington.

Not every stadium has to be downtown. If people can't handle driving 10 minutes out of the downtown area to see a game, tough shit.

[blaise]

I love flying from the KC airport. I don't know why you'd want an airport near the city anyway. DFW does and it takes up a huge piece of prime real estate.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

Keep in mind people on this board think building arenas and polishing turd stadiums is more important than improving schools and 100 year old sewers.

It's common sense downtown has more people and more stuff to do. You wouldn't see 10k at the K on a Tuesday night if the stadium were built downtown.