KK wrong about success of ASG

[milkman]

Back in '79-'80, I was managing a 7-11.

It was about a 35-40 minute drive to get the the games, and I went to about 30-40 games a year.

I had no interest in going anywhere to drink after, because of the drive, and because I had to be at work the next morning at 6am.

These are the people who aren't going to games now.

Why make that drive, or even longer drives, to see a shitty product.

Those downtown patrons aren't going to make that big a difference.

It's the people who have to make the drive that are going to make the difference in attendence.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by milkman

Back in '79-'80, I was managing a 7-11.

It was about a 35-40 minute drive to get the the games, and I went to about 30-40 games a year.

I had no interest in going anywhere to drink after, because of the drive, and because I had to be at work the next morning at 6am.

These are the people who aren't going to games now.

Why make that drive, or even longer drives, to see a shitty product.

Those downtown patrons aren't going to make that big a difference.

It's the people who have to make the drive that are going to make the difference in attendence.

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

That same airport is rated in the top 5 midsize International Airports every year so seems like you're the only one complaining.

I guess you also hate the Yankees for having a stadium in the Bronx instead of Manhattan. Or the Jets/Giants for having a stadium in New ****ing Jersey. Or the 49ers for building a stadium in Santa Clara. Or the Cowboys Stadium for being in Arlington.

Not every stadium has to be downtown. If people can't handle driving 10 minutes out of the downtown area to see a game, tough shit.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

Keep in mind people on this board think building arenas and polishing turd stadiums is more important than improving schools and 100 year old sewers.

It's common sense downtown has more people and more stuff to do. You wouldn't see 10k at the K on a Tuesday night if the stadium were built downtown.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Keep in mind people on this board think building arenas and polishing turd stadiums is more important than improving schools and 100 year old sewers.

It's common sense downtown has more people and more stuff to do. You wouldn't see 10k at the K on a Tuesday night if the stadium were built downtown.

You might actually see less considering there are more things to do rather watch a losing ball club.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

You mean the same people who sit in the Club Level at Arrowhead? Pfft, I could do with out those limp wristed, white zin drinking fuddy duddies making any kind of appearance at games anyway. You are only furthering my belief that things should stay as they are.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

That's great and all, but 7-11 employees aren't really going to fill up stadiums. If you're going to put three million asses in the seats, you're going to need to get white collar people with expense accounts taking their clients to games, buying them booze, etc.

Businesses buy season tickets. When there is a day game in Saint Louis, half the people there are using company tickets. It's not as appealing to drive out to ****ing Raytown as it is to walk across the street, and it's sure as shit not as appealing to drink Sprite at Denny's afterwards as it is to down Sapphire and tonics on a rooftop bar fifty stories up across the street from Busch Stadium.

It blows my mind that people actually think that the Truman Sports Complex is as good of a place for a baseball stadium as downtown next to the Kauffman Center.

This is why Kansas City has an airport just south of Des Moines, a city council that gets into flame wars with its mayor (even though they belong to the same political party), and schools that can't seem to hang on to their accreditation for longer than a Kardashian can stay married.

Are you usually this stupid?

This wasn't about some random 7-11 employee, you ****ing dumbass.

This was about the fact that the fan base is spread out across hundreds of miles.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by milkman

Are you usually this stupid?

This wasn't about some random 7-11 employee, you ****ing dumbass.

This was about the fact that the fan base is spread out across hundreds of miles.

Every fan base is spread out across hundreds of miles. That doesn't mean that you just say "**** it" and stick the stadium in the most god-forsaken part of that territory.

...if you're not Kansas City, I mean. If you're Kansas City, that's exactly what you do because there's a big parking lot there.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Every fan base is spread out across hundreds of miles. That doesn't mean that you just say "**** it" and stick the stadium in the most god-forsaken part of that territory.

...if you're not Kansas City, I mean. If you're Kansas City, that's exactly what you do because there's a big parking lot there.

Yes every fan base is spread out.

But they call KC a small market for reason.

Can you guess what that reason is?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by milkman

Yes every fan base is spread out.

But they call KC a small market for reason.

Can you guess what that reason is?

Because people like to make excuses for losing.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Because people like to make excuses for losing.

JFC, you are this ****ing stupid.

We aren't talking about winning and losing you dipshit.

We're talking about people showing up.

It's a small market because there are far fewer people in the metropolitan area than a New York, or LA, or Chicago.

It's far more important for a team like the Royals to attract the fan from 100 miles away than it is for the Yankees.

The way to do that is to provide a winning product,