Royals KK wrong about success of ASG - Page 11

KingPriest2 · 07-11-2012, 02:39 PM

Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game?

Now he s saying that he expected it

**Saul Good** · 07-12-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

You're no better than Keitzman. Talk shit about Jackson County, but you live in Johnson County. Keitzman even moved his radio station from Jackson County to Johnson County. And bully for you, you think you make more money than somebody that lives in Independence, or Lee's Summit, or Blue Springs. Got news for you pal, there's lots of money in Eastern Jackson County.

Johnson County never pays their fair share for anything. Look at the metro: Airport is in Platte County, NASCAR in Wyandotte County. Casinos and Worlds of Fun in Clay County. Stadiums, arenas, art museums, historical sites all in Jackson County.

What does Johnson County contribute? Private golf courses, gated communities and tax dodgers.

If you want a downtown stadium, I suggest you first move to Jackson County and then put your money where your mouth is.

I've spent the majority of my life living in Missouri. I directly contributed to the re-gentrification of Kansas City when I built a condo on 29th and Cherry. My wife and kids are at Worlds of Fun right this second. I have no problem saying that I have paid more in Jackson County sales taxes than the average Jackson County resident has in the past several years.

I love Kansas City despite the fact that it has absolutely zero ability to use forward thinking. I spend my money at Royals games, at Power and Light, the Plaza, etc. My sales tax dollars go towards the renovation just the same as yours do.

**Saul Good** · 07-12-2012, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

So residential, or entertainment district?

Bottom line, you ****ed up using Wrigley as an example. Wrigley is an example of what KC should do with the K - develop/build entertainment around it.

Hell, STL isn't even that good of an example. There's one bar right next door, and that's it. Shannon's is several blocks away. Busch is basically surrounded by parking garages.

So what are they doing?

Developing and building an entertainment district behind the left field stands on Clark Street.

Wrigley is not a bad example. The stadium is, and was, in an urban area. I'm not married to the idea of the stadium being "downtown" so much as I am having it where people actually work and/or live. In fact, I was a proponent of it being built up against Union Station in midtown.

You can't build/develop an entertainment district at Blue Ridge Cutoff and Raytown road because nobody lives there, and nobody works there. The Power and Light district works because it's within walking distance of where tens of thousands of people work every day.

It worked at Wrigley because thousands of people live right there.

If you build an entertainment district near Kaufman, people will go there when there are games, but nobody is driving to Raytown if they aren't going to a game. That's why there is nothing there now. It's not like nobody has ever had the idea of putting a bar/restaurant near the stadium. It simply doesn't make any economic sense.

The city could have used a little foresight and built a new stadium within walking distance or a short cab ride of the Sprint Center, P&L, Downtown, Midtown, Westport, the Plaza, etc. Instead, we publicly financed a nine figure "facelift", and for what? A marginally better stadium in the middle of nowhere.

**Dartgod** · 07-12-2012, 11:31 AM

How long before you acknowledge that the sports complex isn't in ****ing Raytown?

mr. tegu · 07-12-2012, 11:31 AM

This seemed to get overlooked but I think it is worth mentioning again. A downtown stadium would deter a lot of people that currently go to games, and those I am speaking of is people with families and children. Do they really want to go downtown and be near all the bars and entertainment when all they really want is to see a game? Then have to leave that place in the dark at 10 o'clock at night? There is more people interested in attending games beyond just those whose only concern is a bar and/or walking distance.

mr. tegu · 07-12-2012, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader

As to this whole bar attachment you have, that is why we simply will not agree on this. You want party at bars before and after the games. Where as I prefer to party in the lot tailgate style.

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

Raiderhater · 07-12-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

And it will only increase if the franchise puts a winning product on the field.

**Saul Good** · 07-12-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

How long before you acknowledge that the sports complex isn't in ****ing Raytown?

The complex is technically in KC proper. You literally leave Raytown when you enter the main parking lot. Does that somehow make this

an exciting destination for 81 baseball games a year?

Fish · 07-12-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

Wrigley is not a bad example. The stadium is, and was, in an urban area. I'm not married to the idea of the stadium being "downtown" so much as I am having it where people actually work and/or live. In fact, I was a proponent of it being built up against Union Station in midtown.

But that's the problem. KC is spread out pretty wide. The majority of Royals fans don't work/live within walking distance of downtown. Downtown doesn't have the huge concentration of population that would make it worth it to relocate a stadium there. If anything, the suburbs of KC are slowly moving further away from downtown. A centralized location isn't going to make any difference in attendance if the population isn't also centralized downtown.

**gblowfish** · 07-12-2012, 11:38 AM

Quote Saul: I've spent the majority of my life living in Missouri. I directly contributed to the re-gentrification of Kansas City when I built a condo on 29th and Cherry.

So, you're a slum lord? That's how you afford to live in JoCo?

My wife and kids are at Worlds of Fun right this second.

Are they cleaning up the park? I thought you said you were well to do? Why are you forcing your wife and kids to work in this heat?

I have no problem saying that I have paid more in Jackson County sales taxes than the average Jackson County resident has in the past several years.

Is that because liquor is cheaper in Missouri?

I love Kansas City despite the fact that it has absolutely zero ability to use forward thinking.

Yeah, we backwards jack asses haven't built a damn thing. Except the Sports Complex. Oh, and Sprint Center. Oh, and the P&L, Oh and the airport. And that big art gallery on the Plaza. But besides that, nothing. What a bunch of rubes!

I spend my money at Royals games, at Power and Light, the Plaza, etc. My sales tax dollars go towards the renovation just the same as yours do.

We appreciate all the tourist dollars we get from you. Thanks for visiting, come back and see us soon. Make sure to buy a lot of crap while you're here, OK? Bye Bye, now.

Raiderhater · 07-12-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The complex is technically in KC proper. You literally leave Raytown when you enter the main parking lot. Does that somehow make this

an exciting destination for 81 baseball games a year?

I get a kick out of every time I get to go.

**Saul Good** · 07-12-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

You do a lot of that on Tuesday evening games, huh?

**Saul Good** · 07-12-2012, 11:42 AM

I give up. Behold the future of baseball.

**Reaper16** · 07-12-2012, 11:46 AM

I'm pretty sure Saul Good is an alcoholic.

Fish · 07-12-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I give up.

Good, because your nonsense isn't convincing anyone...

**morphius** · 07-12-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

You do a lot of that on Tuesday evening games, huh?

You spend a lot of time hanging out in a bar after 10pm on a Tuesday?

07-11-2012, 02:39 PM
KingPriest2 Super Grover Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $8635135	KK wrong about success of ASG Remember when we were awarded the ASG and KK said that KC will be a embarrassment? Then last summer a article in SI had a player talking about coming here and some players weren't sure. KK took off with that as ammo saying we shouldn't host the game? Now he s saying that he expected it
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Dartgod Wasted away again... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: in Margaritaville Casino cash: $3810000	How long before you acknowledge that the sports complex isn't in ****ing Raytown? __________________ If you shed a tear for me, please make it a tear of joy. -Joe Tracy (Nzoner) . .
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mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1668700	This seemed to get overlooked but I think it is worth mentioning again. A downtown stadium would deter a lot of people that currently go to games, and those I am speaking of is people with families and children. Do they really want to go downtown and be near all the bars and entertainment when all they really want is to see a game? Then have to leave that place in the dark at 10 o'clock at night? There is more people interested in attending games beyond just those whose only concern is a bar and/or walking distance.
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07-12-2012, 11:38 AM	#159
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $16896178 VARSITY	Quote Saul: I've spent the majority of my life living in Missouri. I directly contributed to the re-gentrification of Kansas City when I built a condo on 29th and Cherry. So, you're a slum lord? That's how you afford to live in JoCo? My wife and kids are at Worlds of Fun right this second. Are they cleaning up the park? I thought you said you were well to do? Why are you forcing your wife and kids to work in this heat? I have no problem saying that I have paid more in Jackson County sales taxes than the average Jackson County resident has in the past several years. Is that because liquor is cheaper in Missouri? I love Kansas City despite the fact that it has absolutely zero ability to use forward thinking. Yeah, we backwards jack asses haven't built a damn thing. Except the Sports Complex. Oh, and Sprint Center. Oh, and the P&L, Oh and the airport. And that big art gallery on the Plaza. But besides that, nothing. What a bunch of rubes! I spend my money at Royals games, at Power and Light, the Plaza, etc. My sales tax dollars go towards the renovation just the same as yours do. We appreciate all the tourist dollars we get from you. Thanks for visiting, come back and see us soon. Make sure to buy a lot of crap while you're here, OK? Bye Bye, now.
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