KK wrong about success of ASG

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

But didn't you just say that the Cubs draw more fans than the Royals because the city is bigger? Why, then, do you think the Cubs, a last place team who last won the World Series during the Roosevelt administration, Teddy Roosevelt, nearly double up the first place Sox?

Here is Comiskey. Note that it is surrounded by parking lots.



Here is Wrigley. Note that there are dozens of bars where a giant parking lot would logically be.

First of all, I am not the one who said it. But I do agree with the notion that the higher the population the better attendance a team will achieve.

As to this example of yours, could it be not so much location as it is the city is predominantly Cubs fans? I mean, they came to be 18 years before the Sox. Just thinking out loud....

As to this whole bar attachment you have, that is why we simply will not agree on this. You want party at bars before and after the games. Where as I prefer to party in the lot tailgate style.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

As to this whole bar attachment you have, that is why we simply will not agree on this. You want party at bars before and after the games. Where as I prefer to party in the lot tailgate style.

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

And it will only increase if the franchise puts a winning product on the field.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Yeah I am not sure where Saul gets the idea that tailgating doesn't happen for more than 13 people at the games. Everytime I have ever been there always large groups of people cooking and playing tailgate games such as catch or bean bag toss.

You do a lot of that on Tuesday evening games, huh?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You do a lot of that on Tuesday evening games, huh?

You spend a lot of time hanging out in a bar after 10pm on a Tuesday?

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by morphius

You spend a lot of time hanging out in a bar after 10pm on a Tuesday?

Nicely played, sir.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by morphius

You spend a lot of time hanging out in a bar after 10pm on a Tuesday?

Not at all. If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to go somewhere near the stadium to have a decent meal or grab a drink.

If I'm entertaining someone for business, the Royals game doesn't even enter the discussion. I go to games in Saint Louis for "business" meetings when I'm there because there is plenty to do before and after the game. I actually spend my money in the surrounding area. Imagine that.

[Raiderhater]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Not at all. If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to go somewhere near the stadium to have a decent meal or grab a drink.

If I'm entertaining someone for business, the Royals game doesn't even enter the discussion. I go to games in Saint Louis for "business" meetings when I'm there because there is plenty to do before and after the game. I actually spend my money in the surrounding area. Imagine that.

So we want to bring people who aren't even focused on the game but rather some business dealings?

Sorry, I go to games for the games. I don't need the experience watered down by a bunch of suits talking about their next merger or litigation.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

So we want to bring people who aren't even focused on the game but rather some business dealings?

Sorry, I go to games for the games. I don't need the experience watered down by a bunch of suits talking about their next merger or litigation.

advocates designing stadiums around hardcore baseball fans



supports a nine figure renovation of the stadium that added bars, concession stands, luxury boxes, a playground, and an enormous video board

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Raiderhader

So we want to bring people who aren't even focused on the game but rather some business dealings?

Sorry, I go to games for the games. I don't need the experience watered down by a bunch of suits talking about their next merger or litigation.

We as Royals fans are definitely one of the best groups, especially considering the poor play of the team for so long. Perhaps a reason is because the people that go are there because they ARE fans and not just there to be shown a good time or sucked up to by business parters.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Not at all. If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to go somewhere near the stadium to have a decent meal or grab a drink.

If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to tailgate in the parking lot and grill my food and have a few drinks. The current stadium provides that wonderfully.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to tailgate in the parking lot and grill my food and have a few drinks. The current stadium provides that wonderfully.

If there's one thing people in Kansas City love, it's a huge parking lot.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

If I'm leaving work at 4:30 or 5:00 and hitting a 7:05 game, I want to be able to tailgate in the parking lot and grill my food and have a few drinks. The current stadium provides that wonderfully.

This.

I like the new Busch as a park - nice sightlines and a phenomenal view of the city in the outfield - but I'd gladly give up that view for the ability to tailgate and park easily and inexpensively.

What's it cost to park at the K? $10?

Double or triple that if you're parking near a downtown ballpark.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You do a lot of that on Tuesday evening games, huh?

You don't cook food during the week? Tailgating is a huge part of the experience for Chiefs games AND Royals games. This is not an opinion, just a fact you seem to overlook and underestimate.

Again, I have to ask, would not the stadium see far less families going if it were downtown? Who wants to take their three kids downtown with all the bars and then walk back to their car at 10 o'clock at night?

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Again, I have to ask, would not the stadium see far less families going if it were downtown? Who wants to take their three kids downtown with all the bars and then walk back to their car at 10 o'clock at night?

The K is a factory of drunkenness. It's the biggest bar in KC on game nights.