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Old 07-15-2012, 12:44 PM  
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Does anything less than a playoff appearance = Bye Bye Pioli?

This isn't a thread bashing Pioli it's simply to encourage discussion.

The Facts:

The Chiefs have finished in last place 2 out of the 3 seasons since Pioli took over.

The Chiefs have averaged 7 wins under the Pioli regime.

The 2009 draft= Fail

The Trade for Matt Cassel turns out it wasn't good.

Already fired one coach missing the playoffs this year with this squad would mean Crennel isn't that good of a coach.

So does anything less than a playoff appearance= failure? If so that would be 3 out of 4 years Pioli has failed. That gets you walking papers with most franchises.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:49 PM   #31
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Probably not, even though it probably should. Anything under 6-10 SHOULD get him fired, though.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:58 PM   #32
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No matter what kinda season the Chiefs have... If that stadium is full every week Pioli & Cassell will be there until they retire
And we're a pretty fickle bunch, so another 9-7/10-6 season and first round playoff exit should do it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:00 PM   #33
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No matter what kinda season the Chiefs have... If that stadium is full every week Pioli & Cassell will be there until they retire
The stadium hasn't been anywhere near full on a regular basic since 2006.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:04 PM   #34
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I don't think there has been anything to convict Pioli on that would call for a firing anytime soon. He's taken on a huge task imo and done fair with it. I would have parted ways with Cassel as a starter and let it be an open comp now during this whole off season/ota/tc, but he thinks Cassel can get them going again. Got to wait see on that.

Much as you guys don't want to admit it, Cassel has enough talent to at least go to the playoffs with this talented team, but a lot is riding on the regained performance of Jamaal Charles & Eric Berry, Moeaki too, to some degree. Point is, he did it once already with the Chiefs and I think we can agree this year's team should be a bit more talented than the 2010 team.

If Cassel can in fact keep that INT # down while striking once or twice a game, the Chiefs will have a winning season, I would expect. Sorry to say. I hate watching that baseball wind up of his, but if he gets the job done, it will be hard to criticize Pioli for sticking with him another season imo. Maybe Daboll can get these wideouts to get off the ball more quickly and that would help Cassel in the passing game.

I don't expect the Chiefs to do well, myself and I expect Cassel to choke out this season. RC will pull him by season's end. Late in the season after they lose WC/Playoff contention. Maybe game 12, something like that.
yeah, well I dont' want to just go to the playoffs. I want to win a damn superbowl and Cassel will NEVER do that.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:11 PM   #35
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The stadium hasn't been anywhere near full on a regular basic since 2006.
That's sad but the corporate dollars/renovation killed the Arrowhead experience.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:14 PM   #36
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Since he's hitched his wagon to Cassel he deserves to go down with him.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:18 PM   #37
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That's sad but the corporate dollars/renovation killed the Arrowhead experience.
Renovation only killed the club level.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:20 PM   #38
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Renovation only killed the club level.
It's nice as hell up there, but you feel like you're anywhere but a pro football game.
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It's nice as hell up there, but you feel like you're anywhere but a pro football game.
Thats why I wish they would just put up tinted glass on that level. the majority of the people on that level aren't there to watch the game in the elements anyway.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:24 PM   #40
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And we're a pretty fickle bunch, so another 9-7/10-6 season and first round playoff exit should do it.
Win a couple games in a row and everybody will be on Cassells sack like a fat kid on a jelly doughnut. Then the cycle resets again.
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Win a couple games in a row and everybody will be on Cassells sack like a fat kid on a jelly doughnut. Then the cycle resets again.
No I think that ship has sailed. I'm as easy going as it gets when it comes to letting the GM/Coach pick their players but even I'm at the point we need a different direction at QB.
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Old 07-15-2012, 03:27 PM   #42
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Win a couple games in a row and everybody will be on Cassells sack like a fat kid on a jelly doughnut. Then the cycle resets again.
The average fan maybe. Not CP fans.
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Thats why I wish they would just put up tinted glass on that level. the majority of the people on that level aren't there to watch the game in the elements anyway.
They did that in Green Bay. TOTALLY ruins the experience. Might as well as stay home and watch on big screen.
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As much as I hate Casshole, Im almost paying more attention to the rookies and 2nd year guys to evaluate Pioli. If they all become productive and/or stars, then we have the foundation of a dynasty. Assuming we get a good QB, of course, and I dont think Pioli is as ready to go down with Cassel as many here think.
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Win a couple games in a row and everybody will be on Cassells sack like a fat kid on a jelly doughnut. Then the cycle resets again.
Apparently you werent here 2 years ago.
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