Chiefs Ok, now for the GOOD of the Smith trade... - Page 3

**petegz28** · 02-27-2013, 01:57 PM

Not to say there is a ton of good but let's try and point out some goodness from it since it is a done deal...

1. It means Cassel is gone....
2. We have a QB who actually has experience in college and more than part of 1 season in the pro's for the first time since?????
3. We still hold our #1 pick and could still pick up a QB in the draft
4. Smith is a viable backup should #3 come about

Ok, well that's all I got .....

keg in kc · 02-27-2013, 02:14 PM

There is no good.

They are not going to draft a quarterback. They're not trading multiple picks and giving a new contract to a backup.

The Rick · 02-27-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're a ****ing moron.

And I used to have respect for you as a member of CP...

htismaqe · 02-27-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

And I used to have respect for you as a member of CP...

I couldn't ****ing care less what you think.

Discuss Thrower · 02-27-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Okay, so flame away, im used to it. I get it all the time on the 49ers board. Two years ago, the 49ers hired Jim Harbaugh. Everyone cheered. The 49ers then said they were keeping alex smith, place melted down. 20-6, two seasons later and a super bowl appearance Alex Smith is dropped on your door step under a coach who has a similar philosophy, and a great running attack. This team is going to finish no worse than second in the division. You arent going to turn the ball over. It is going to be okay. Seems like crap today. There is nothing that Geno Smith was going to offer this year that is better than what Alex Smith is going to give the Chiefs.

Geno Smith has the potential to be great. Alex Smith has the potential to be no worse than he is now.

The Rick · 02-27-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I couldn't ****ing care less what you think.

The feeling is mutual.

keg in kc · 02-27-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

The feeling is mutual.

Then why are you replying to him, much less posting threads like this?

warpaint* · 02-27-2013, 02:25 PM

On the bright side?

Hopefully in four years when we're drafting in the same spot again Andrew Luck's long lost younger brother is available and we draft him in spite of our own stupidity.

On the bright side.

**Mav** · 02-27-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Geno Smith has the potential to be great. Alex Smith has the potential to be no worse than he is now.

Potential gets you fired. Also in this draft, you can throw a blanket over the entire field of qbs and not find one difference that makes one a first rounder over a 4th rounder. Andy Reid has proven that he can take and a later round qb, (foles, kolb) and have them perform for him. So if the chiefs do take a Tyler Bray, or Landry Jones in the 3rd round, dont be surprised. You have a great mentor as a qb, and a great qb developer in Reid, and an OC that was developed in the Holmgren way of things. Rain today, sunshine tomorrow.

BryanBusby · 02-27-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint*

On the bright side?

Hopefully in four years when we're drafting in the same spot again Andrew Luck's long lost younger brother is available and we draft him in spite of our own stupidity.

On the bright side.

On the reality side, a far distant cousin of Joeckel will be in the draft and **** a QB when you can draft a franchise offensive lineman

Discuss Thrower · 02-27-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Potential gets you fired. Also in this draft, you can throw a blanket over the entire field of qbs and not find one difference that makes one a first rounder over a 4th rounder. Andy Reid has proven that he can take and a later round qb, (foles, kolb) and have them perform for him. So if the chiefs do take a Tyler Bray, or Landry Jones in the 3rd round, dont be surprised. You have a great mentor as a qb, and a great qb developer in Reid, and an OC that was developed in the Holmgren way of things. Rain today, sunshine tomorrow.

Doesn't matter. You

The Rick · 02-27-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Then why are you replying to him, much less posting threads like this?

First, not my thread.

Second, if he couldn't care less what I think, why is he telling me so?

Brock · 02-27-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

And I used to have respect for you as a member of CP...

Go **** yourself, you stupid homer dick.

ChiefsCountry · 02-27-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

There is nothing that Geno Smith was going to offer this year that is better than what Alex Smith is going to give the Chiefs.

Its not about this season dumb****. Its about the next 10 to 15.

**HemiEd** · 02-27-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by The Rick

The fact that we could still draft Geno in the 1st is something I said in the other thread, but that got missed amongst all the whining. I think it's still a possibility too.

That is because the idea of them taking a QB #1 now is so stupid it is beyond comprehension.

Namor40 · 02-27-2013, 02:27 PM

The thing that amazes me about this is so many fans are mad because Alex Smith was acquired, and they think he's useless, yet were ready to proclaim Geno Smith the franchise savior.

Who is Geno Smith's more direct NFL comparison? Alex Smith.

Coming out of college, they were basically the same guy, except Alex has a great deal of experience, playing in every single offensive system out there because the 49ers under Nolan and Singletary went through OC's like tic-tacs. He's very celebral, great at running the no-huddle and 2 minute offense, he'll be playing within the offense, won't force throws, will protect the ball and make plays when they are there.

As far as Reid goes, he loves Smith and that should be very telling. Reid is a regarded QB guru, if he's really high on Smith, that should be considered a very good sign.

Alternatively, if Reid just sat through the Combine, and decided to make this move now, that's a tremendous indictment of the lack of QB talent in this draft, at least early on. Reaching for someone like Geno Smith, who, let's face it, would be a 2nd rounder in most other drafts, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

If they can re-sign Albert then they can take someone like Floyd or trade down and take another WR like Patterson. I expect Reid to look for a QB in the 3rd or 4th and that will be the guy to sit behind Alex Smith for 2-3 years and develop into a full-fledged homegrown starting QB. All in all, the Chiefs are in a better position than they were at the end of the season.

Cassell is gone, and the new QB is someone that completed 70% of his passes the previous season.

02-27-2013, 01:57 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-885873	Ok, now for the GOOD of the Smith trade... Not to say there is a ton of good but let's try and point out some goodness from it since it is a done deal... 1. It means Cassel is gone.... 2. We have a QB who actually has experience in college and more than part of 1 season in the pro's for the first time since????? 3. We still hold our #1 pick and could still pick up a QB in the draft 4. Smith is a viable backup should #3 come about Ok, well that's all I got .....
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02-27-2013, 02:14 PM	#31
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	There is no good. They are not going to draft a quarterback. They're not trading multiple picks and giving a new contract to a backup.
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02-27-2013, 02:25 PM	#37
warpaint* Facts are stubborn things. Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $4684900	On the bright side? Hopefully in four years when we're drafting in the same spot again Andrew Luck's long lost younger brother is available and we draft him in spite of our own stupidity. On the bright side.
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02-27-2013, 02:27 PM	#45
Namor40 Starter Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004995	The thing that amazes me about this is so many fans are mad because Alex Smith was acquired, and they think he's useless, yet were ready to proclaim Geno Smith the franchise savior. Who is Geno Smith's more direct NFL comparison? Alex Smith. Coming out of college, they were basically the same guy, except Alex has a great deal of experience, playing in every single offensive system out there because the 49ers under Nolan and Singletary went through OC's like tic-tacs. He's very celebral, great at running the no-huddle and 2 minute offense, he'll be playing within the offense, won't force throws, will protect the ball and make plays when they are there. As far as Reid goes, he loves Smith and that should be very telling. Reid is a regarded QB guru, if he's really high on Smith, that should be considered a very good sign. Alternatively, if Reid just sat through the Combine, and decided to make this move now, that's a tremendous indictment of the lack of QB talent in this draft, at least early on. Reaching for someone like Geno Smith, who, let's face it, would be a 2nd rounder in most other drafts, doesn't make a whole lot of sense. If they can re-sign Albert then they can take someone like Floyd or trade down and take another WR like Patterson. I expect Reid to look for a QB in the 3rd or 4th and that will be the guy to sit behind Alex Smith for 2-3 years and develop into a full-fledged homegrown starting QB. All in all, the Chiefs are in a better position than they were at the end of the season. Cassell is gone, and the new QB is someone that completed 70% of his passes the previous season.
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