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stonedstooge · 05-31-2013, 06:09 PM

SHOOT FOR TWO

**petegz28** · 05-31-2013, 09:00 PM

Ok, here is what tonight came down too...

Gordon (gets a pass), Cain and Butler choked with RISP
Getz blew a play that would have gotten us out of the inning before Cruz went yard
Ned left Davis in way too long......no shocker there

GloryDayz · 05-31-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

When does Salvy get back?

Not soon enough... But I think he's more than willing to miss a few more. If he was driven to play, or had a real team (with a chance) he might be more inspired to cut the grieving time short, but there's not much to rush back to/for.

C3HIEF3S · 05-31-2013, 09:02 PM

Heard on 610 earlier that Salvy is not going to be back until Tuesday.

**petegz28** · 05-31-2013, 10:03 PM

Listening to Ned's post game comments was painful. This guy is totally lost.

Said Davis had his best inning in the 5th so he would leave him in for the first 2 hitters in the 6th and if one got on he would go to Chen. Then said AJ has great numbers against Chen so he left Davis in.

So he had a RHP face 2 lefties then brought in a junk balling LHP with men on base to face righties.

JFC

**cabletech94** · 05-31-2013, 10:07 PM

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

**petegz28** · 05-31-2013, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

**cabletech94** · 05-31-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

i was thinking to myself, as i was turning off the game around the 6th inning (in the past, i would NEVER turn off the game. EVER).

where would we be if we had management that cared about our team like nolan ryan does for the rangers?

and forgive me for even bringing this up, because i hate the bastard; john elway and the broncos. i mean seriously, these guys do whatever it takes to bring in winners. they cut the bait, and bring in the big name that takes them to the playoffs.

please, someone, please talk me off the ledge here.

**lewdog** · 05-31-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

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Originally Posted by petegz28

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

Which means he won't get canned until near All-star break or not even at all.

**petegz28** · 05-31-2013, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94

i was thinking to myself, as i was turning off the game around the 6th inning (in the past, i would NEVER turn off the game. EVER).

where would we be if we had management that cared about our team like nolan ryan does for the rangers?

and forgive me for even bringing this up, because i hate the bastard; john elway and the broncos. i mean seriously, these guys do whatever it takes to bring in winners. they cut the bait, and bring in the big name that takes them to the playoffs.

please, someone, please talk me off the ledge here.

If Glass acted like the Hunt's I would have to be accepting of him. I am not saying Lamar or Clark have done the best things over the years but they clearly had a visible interest in the team.

Everyone said Pioli was the guy to get and Clark got him. When that failed he went out and got Reid and Dorsey and what not and really showed he wants to try and win.

Glass??? I don't think he even watches the games.

tk13 · 05-31-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

If Glass acted like the Hunt's I would have to be accepting of him. I am not saying Lamar or Clark have done the best things over the years but they clearly had a visible interest in the team.

Everyone said ***** was the guy to get and Clark got him. When that failed he went out and got Reid and Dorsey and what not and really showed he wants to try and win.

Glass??? I don't think he even watches the games.

Remember Dayton was one of the top GM prospects in the game. Maybe even more highly thought of than ***** with the way the Braves develop players. He turned down the Red Sox. Along with that, they hired Mike Arbuckle, a GM candidate from the Phillies during their prime years. He was their assistant GM. And Rene Francisco, who was international scouting director for the Braves and Dodgers before coming here. There are some legit guys in the Royals front office.

tk13 · 05-31-2013, 11:08 PM

I knew there was a list about this somewhere. If you look back 10 years ago exactly... Baseball America had a list of the top 10 GM candidates in baseball. #1 and #3 both became Royals. This will make your head explode.

1. Dayton Moore, director of player personnel, Braves

Though he was initially reluctant to move from coaching into scouting, Moore has flourished in a variety of roles since joining the Braves as a scouting supervisor in 1994. A former assistant coach at George Mason, the 36-year-old Moore was promoted in 1996 to the baseball operations department, where he's continued to take on increasing responsibility in subsequent years. Moore, who was called a "John Schuerholz in the making" by more than one executive polled, served as assistant scouting director, assistant farm director and international scouting director before moving into his current role. "He's on top of everything," another executive said. "He speaks up and has aggressive ideas."

3. Mike Arbuckle, assistant GM, scouting and player development, Phillies

Arbuckle received consideration for the GM jobs with the Red Sox and Pirates following the 2002 season, and should continue to get more opportunities in the near future. "How he was overlooked was stunning," an AL assistant GM said. "He's one of the best bargains in baseball with similar qualifications to (Jim) Hendry and (Brian) Sabean. He has the natural leadership skills to make people who work for him feel comfortable." Arbuckle, 53, revitalized the Phillies farm system after taking over as scouting director in October 1992. He was promoted to his current position in October 2001 after presiding over nine drafts. His track record on high draft picks has been stellar, including Pat Burrell, Scott Rolen, Jimmy Rollins and Randy Wolf.

And like I said that doesn't include hiring one of the most respected international scouts in the game to run that side of the team... which has paid dividends no matter what happens to DM.

teedubya · 05-31-2013, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Remember Dayton was one of the top GM prospects in the game. Maybe even more highly thought of than ***** with the way the Braves develop players. He turned down the Red Sox. Along with that, they hired Mike Arbuckle, a GM candidate from the Phillies during their prime years. He was their assistant GM. And Rene Francisco, who was international scouting director for the Braves and Dodgers before coming here. There are some legit guys in the Royals front office.

This is sad to think about how bad it's become. Jesus.

tk13 · 05-31-2013, 11:25 PM

It is. If you'd told us 10 years ago when we traded Beltran, which is probably the last demoralizing trade where it looked like things were hopeless... that in the following decade they would hire two of the top GM candidates in the game and one of the league's best international scouts and start investing big money overseas... most people would've been chalking up playoff appearances. They did build one of the most highly thought of farm systems ever though.

Mama Hip Rockets · 05-31-2013, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by petegz28

Ok, here is what tonight came down too...

Gordon (gets a pass), Cain and Butler choked with RISP
Getz blew a play that would have gotten us out of the inning before Cruz went yard
Ned left Davis in way too long......no shocker there

Yeah, I'm still trying to figure out how they called that a hit. Just cause it's on the outfield grass doesn't mean it's not an error if you fumble it around.

teedubya · 06-01-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

It is. If you'd told us 10 years ago when we traded Beltran, which is probably the last demoralizing trade where it looked like things were hopeless... that in the following decade they would hire two of the top GM candidates in the game and one of the league's best international scouts and start investing big money overseas... most people would've been chalking up playoff appearances. They did build one of the most highly thought of farm systems ever though.

Do we get a banner for that? Maybe fly a flag?

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petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-875873	Ok, here is what tonight came down too... Gordon (gets a pass), Cain and Butler choked with RISP Getz blew a play that would have gotten us out of the inning before Cruz went yard Ned left Davis in way too long......no shocker there
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05-31-2013, 10:03 PM	#109
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-875873	Listening to Ned's post game comments was painful. This guy is totally lost. Said Davis had his best inning in the 5th so he would leave him in for the first 2 hitters in the 6th and if one got on he would go to Chen. Then said AJ has great numbers against Chen so he left Davis in. So he had a RHP face 2 lefties then brought in a junk balling LHP with men on base to face righties. JFC
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05-31-2013, 11:08 PM	#116
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	I knew there was a list about this somewhere. If you look back 10 years ago exactly... Baseball America had a list of the top 10 GM candidates in baseball. #1 and #3 both became Royals. This will make your head explode. 1. Dayton Moore, director of player personnel, Braves Though he was initially reluctant to move from coaching into scouting, Moore has flourished in a variety of roles since joining the Braves as a scouting supervisor in 1994. A former assistant coach at George Mason, the 36-year-old Moore was promoted in 1996 to the baseball operations department, where he's continued to take on increasing responsibility in subsequent years. Moore, who was called a "John Schuerholz in the making" by more than one executive polled, served as assistant scouting director, assistant farm director and international scouting director before moving into his current role. "He's on top of everything," another executive said. "He speaks up and has aggressive ideas." 3. Mike Arbuckle, assistant GM, scouting and player development, Phillies Arbuckle received consideration for the GM jobs with the Red Sox and Pirates following the 2002 season, and should continue to get more opportunities in the near future. "How he was overlooked was stunning," an AL assistant GM said. "He's one of the best bargains in baseball with similar qualifications to (Jim) Hendry and (Brian) Sabean. He has the natural leadership skills to make people who work for him feel comfortable." Arbuckle, 53, revitalized the Phillies farm system after taking over as scouting director in October 1992. He was promoted to his current position in October 2001 after presiding over nine drafts. His track record on high draft picks has been stellar, including Pat Burrell, Scott Rolen, Jimmy Rollins and Randy Wolf. And like I said that doesn't include hiring one of the most respected international scouts in the game to run that side of the team... which has paid dividends no matter what happens to DM.
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05-31-2013, 11:25 PM	#118
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1667500	It is. If you'd told us 10 years ago when we traded Beltran, which is probably the last demoralizing trade where it looked like things were hopeless... that in the following decade they would hire two of the top GM candidates in the game and one of the league's best international scouts and start investing big money overseas... most people would've been chalking up playoff appearances. They did build one of the most highly thought of farm systems ever though.
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