****KC Royals @ Texas Strangers-May 31****

[cabletech94]

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

[cabletech94]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

i was thinking to myself, as i was turning off the game around the 6th inning (in the past, i would NEVER turn off the game. EVER).

where would we be if we had management that cared about our team like nolan ryan does for the rangers?

and forgive me for even bringing this up, because i hate the bastard; john elway and the broncos. i mean seriously, these guys do whatever it takes to bring in winners. they cut the bait, and bring in the big name that takes them to the playoffs.

please, someone, please talk me off the ledge here.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

i was thinking to myself, as i was turning off the game around the 6th inning (in the past, i would NEVER turn off the game. EVER).

where would we be if we had management that cared about our team like nolan ryan does for the rangers?

and forgive me for even bringing this up, because i hate the bastard; john elway and the broncos. i mean seriously, these guys do whatever it takes to bring in winners. they cut the bait, and bring in the big name that takes them to the playoffs.

please, someone, please talk me off the ledge here.

If Glass acted like the Hunt's I would have to be accepting of him. I am not saying Lamar or Clark have done the best things over the years but they clearly had a visible interest in the team.

Everyone said Pioli was the guy to get and Clark got him. When that failed he went out and got Reid and Dorsey and what not and really showed he wants to try and win.

Glass??? I don't think he even watches the games.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by petegz28

If Glass acted like the Hunt's I would have to be accepting of him. I am not saying Lamar or Clark have done the best things over the years but they clearly had a visible interest in the team.

Everyone said ***** was the guy to get and Clark got him. When that failed he went out and got Reid and Dorsey and what not and really showed he wants to try and win.

Glass??? I don't think he even watches the games.

Remember Dayton was one of the top GM prospects in the game. Maybe even more highly thought of than ***** with the way the Braves develop players. He turned down the Red Sox. Along with that, they hired Mike Arbuckle, a GM candidate from the Phillies during their prime years. He was their assistant GM. And Rene Francisco, who was international scouting director for the Braves and Dodgers before coming here. There are some legit guys in the Royals front office.

[tk13]

I knew there was a list about this somewhere. If you look back 10 years ago exactly... Baseball America had a list of the top 10 GM candidates in baseball. #1 and #3 both became Royals. This will make your head explode.

1. Dayton Moore, director of player personnel, Braves

Though he was initially reluctant to move from coaching into scouting, Moore has flourished in a variety of roles since joining the Braves as a scouting supervisor in 1994. A former assistant coach at George Mason, the 36-year-old Moore was promoted in 1996 to the baseball operations department, where he's continued to take on increasing responsibility in subsequent years. Moore, who was called a "John Schuerholz in the making" by more than one executive polled, served as assistant scouting director, assistant farm director and international scouting director before moving into his current role. "He's on top of everything," another executive said. "He speaks up and has aggressive ideas."

3. Mike Arbuckle, assistant GM, scouting and player development, Phillies

Arbuckle received consideration for the GM jobs with the Red Sox and Pirates following the 2002 season, and should continue to get more opportunities in the near future. "How he was overlooked was stunning," an AL assistant GM said. "He's one of the best bargains in baseball with similar qualifications to (Jim) Hendry and (Brian) Sabean. He has the natural leadership skills to make people who work for him feel comfortable." Arbuckle, 53, revitalized the Phillies farm system after taking over as scouting director in October 1992. He was promoted to his current position in October 2001 after presiding over nine drafts. His track record on high draft picks has been stellar, including Pat Burrell, Scott Rolen, Jimmy Rollins and Randy Wolf.

And like I said that doesn't include hiring one of the most respected international scouts in the game to run that side of the team... which has paid dividends no matter what happens to DM.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by tk13

I knew there was a list about this somewhere. If you look back 10 years ago exactly... Baseball America had a list of the top 10 GM candidates in baseball. #1 and #3 both became Royals. This will make your head explode.

1. Dayton Moore, director of player personnel, Braves

Though he was initially reluctant to move from coaching into scouting, Moore has flourished in a variety of roles since joining the Braves as a scouting supervisor in 1994. A former assistant coach at George Mason, the 36-year-old Moore was promoted in 1996 to the baseball operations department, where he's continued to take on increasing responsibility in subsequent years. Moore, who was called a "John Schuerholz in the making" by more than one executive polled, served as assistant scouting director, assistant farm director and international scouting director before moving into his current role. "He's on top of everything," another executive said. "He speaks up and has aggressive ideas."

3. Mike Arbuckle, assistant GM, scouting and player development, Phillies

Arbuckle received consideration for the GM jobs with the Red Sox and Pirates following the 2002 season, and should continue to get more opportunities in the near future. "How he was overlooked was stunning," an AL assistant GM said. "He's one of the best bargains in baseball with similar qualifications to (Jim) Hendry and (Brian) Sabean. He has the natural leadership skills to make people who work for him feel comfortable." Arbuckle, 53, revitalized the Phillies farm system after taking over as scouting director in October 1992. He was promoted to his current position in October 2001 after presiding over nine drafts. His track record on high draft picks has been stellar, including Pat Burrell, Scott Rolen, Jimmy Rollins and Randy Wolf.

And like I said that doesn't include hiring one of the most respected international scouts in the game to run that side of the team... which has paid dividends no matter what happens to DM.

Truly depressing.....

I think the problem was too overly reliant on draft prospects. Yes a small market should always be developing talent, but what happens if they fail? You have to have something to fall back on. The Royals should at least try to bring in veteran big bats to take pressure off these kids. The right big bats.....not has Beens and never was like Francour and Mike Jacobs.

Not every high pick is going to work out. It just won't. I'll bet there's at least a 50% 1st round washout rate

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by tk13

And like I said that doesn't include hiring one of the most respected international scouts in the game to run that side of the team... which has paid dividends no matter what happens to DM.

How so? Who are the big international prospects in our system, I am looking up our BB America system rankings and don't see any highly rated guys. No Top-100 guys. http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/...rospects-list/


Our top-10 has some internationals. Probably won't even make it to KC. What are the "dividends"?

TOP TEN

PROSPECTS

1. Wil Myers, of
2. Kyle Zimmer, rhp
3. Bubba Starling, of
4. Yordano Ventura, rhp
5. Jake Odorizzi, rhp
6. Jorge Bonifacio, of
7. Adalberto Mondesi, ss
8. Sam Selman, lhp
9. Orlando Calixte, ss
10. Jason Adam, rhp

[teedubya]

Originally Posted by tk13

Remember Dayton was one of the top GM prospects in the game. Maybe even more highly thought of than ***** with the way the Braves develop players. He turned down the Red Sox. Along with that, they hired Mike Arbuckle, a GM candidate from the Phillies during their prime years. He was their assistant GM. And Rene Francisco, who was international scouting director for the Braves and Dodgers before coming here. There are some legit guys in the Royals front office.

This is sad to think about how bad it's become. Jesus.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

Originally Posted by petegz28

I'd lay money that most other teams would have fired his ass a long time ago

Which means he won't get canned until near All-star break or not even at all.

[BlackHelicopters]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

Can't believe he made it to June.

[gblowfish]

Originally Posted by cabletech94

odds that ned makes it past june 30th?

I'll bet Ned makes it through the whole year. Seriously. All they have to do is lose 89 games or less, and the team brass says "successful season...we lost 90 last year!" Besides, Daddy Wal Mart is so cheap he won't pay two guys to do the same job. Hell, Ned is only allowed to work 38 hours a week now. If he works more than that, then the Wal-Mart Royals have to pay his health and dental insurance.

They won't allow GMDM to hire another manager. They'll let the team complete the double-tapered perfect turd then blow it up in the off season if they have to.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'll bet Ned makes it through the whole year. Seriously. All they have to do is lose 89 games or less, and the team brass says "successful season...we lost 90 last year!" Besides, Daddy Wal Mart is so cheap he won't pay two guys to do the same job. Hell, Ned is only allowed to work 38 hours a week now. If he works more than that, then the Wal-Mart Royals have to pay his health and dental insurance.

They won't allow GMDM to hire another manager. They'll let the team complete the double-tapered perfect turd then blow it up in the off season if they have to.

It really is true. Since they named Brett hitting coach, that suffices for keeping the team the same for a good few more months just to "give it a chance." No way Ned is gone now after that move.