Andy blames himself, not Alex, for Chiefs' sputtering offense

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

another classic post from the Talking Can.

Wrong as usual.

But, still classic.

You can score all the points in the world. The Packers marched up and down the field on the 49ers week one, Tony Romo threw for 500 yards and 5 tds against the broncos, and both lost. And the Cowboys lost because Romo turned the ball over at the worst time imaginable.

Of course you want to score points, but you also have to know your limitations as a team

This might be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.

The Packers and Cowboys marched up and down the field in both your examples, yet still lost.

Why?

Because they don't have our defense.

If they did, they'd be favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Just like if we had their offense, WE would be favored to win the SB.


If THIS team could score "all the points in the world", they'd be damn near unbeatable.

[Rasputin]

"Not turning the ball over is very important to us," Reid said, "especially when you have a solid defense like we have and the kicking game we have, both from our punter and our kicker."



At this point field goals are our friend.

**Truefan gif.**

[Jakemall]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This might be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.

The Packers and Cowboys marched up and down the field in both your examples, yet still lost.

Why?

Because they don't have our defense.

If they did, they'd be favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Just like if we had their offense, WE would be favored to win the SB.


If THIS team could score "all the points in the world", they'd be damn near unbeatable.

LOL exactly.

But I'm not entirely sure that what either of you said is mutually exclusive.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

If THIS team could score "all the points in the world", they'd be damn near unbeatable.

Hell, if the offense could score 23 or 24 points a game, they'd be damn near unbeatable. Because the defensive scores would take that up around 30.

Similarly, if the offense could convert first downs and sustain drives, they'd be damn near unbeatable.

That's what people who think talking about this stuff is just us "bitching" don't get: what we're really saying is that we see the possibilities for what this team can actually be.

And they could or perhaps should be better than they are. Even sitting at 6-0 there's tons and tons of room for improvement. The sky could really be the limit, if the offense ever begins to click.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hell, if the offense could score 23 or 24 points a game, they'd be damn near unbeatable. Because the defensive scores would take that up around 30.

Similarly, if the offense could convert first downs and sustain drives, they'd be damn near unbeatable.

That's what people who think talking about this stuff is just us "bitching" don't get: what we're really saying is that we see the possibilities for what this team can actually be.

And they could or perhaps should be better than they are. Even sitting at 6-0 there's tons and tons of room for improvement. The sky could really be the limit, if the offense ever begins to click.

This.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hell, if the offense could score 23 or 24 points a game, they'd be damn near unbeatable. Because the defensive scores would take that up around 30.

Similarly, if the offense could convert first downs and sustain drives, they'd be damn near unbeatable.

That's what people who think talking about this stuff is just us "bitching" don't get: what we're really saying is that we see the possibilities for what this team can actually be.

And they could or perhaps should be better than they are. Even sitting at 6-0 there's tons and tons of room for improvement. The sky could really be the limit, if the offense ever begins to click.

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[milkman]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This might be one of the dumbest things I've ever read on this board.

The Packers and Cowboys marched up and down the field in both your examples, yet still lost.

Why?

Because they don't have our defense.

If they did, they'd be favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Just like if we had their offense, WE would be favored to win the SB.


If THIS team could score "all the points in the world", they'd be damn near unbeatable.

If this offense could score 23 points a game and sustain more than 1 drive in the first 3 qrtrs, they'd be damn near unstoppable.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

If this offense could score 23 points a game and sustain more than 1 drive in the first 3 qrtrs, they'd be damn near unstoppable.

You're basically talking about an additional field goal in each game, since they're averaging 19.5.

Had Avery not fumbled in the Red Zone, that number would be higher.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're basically talking about an additional field goal in each game, since they're averaging 19.5.

Had Avery not fumbled in the Red Zone, that number would be higher.

I am also talking about sustaining drives consistently.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am also talking about sustaining drives consistently.

Which would itself lead to more points.

Everybody has this misguided idea that people asking for "better offense" means "more explosive offense". While some more explosive plays would be great, the thing that can take this team over the top will be more 6-8 minute drives, allowing them to control the game on both sides of the ball. Other teams are already having difficulty scoring, imagine if the Chiefs defense is given more opportunity to play with a lead, and the opposition has fewer possessions...

[Down4Chiefs]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Which would itself lead to more points.

Everybody has this misguided idea that people asking for "better offense" means "more explosive offense". While some more explosive plays would be great, the thing that can take this team over the top will be more 6-8 minute drives, allowing them to control the game on both sides of the ball. Other teams are already having difficulty scoring, imagine if the Chiefs defense is given more opportunity to play with a lead, and the opposition has fewer possessions...

Amen,the other team seems to have a lot of oppurtunitys to make a comeback lol. Luckily our defense is so great it hasn't mattered how many chances teams gets. As well. As our o has come through late in the game.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am also talking about sustaining drives consistently.

Absolutely. But I think that either Allen and Fisher need their respective "light bulb" to turn on, or they need to be replaced for this to happen.

I'm not a huge fan of Schwartz or Stephenson but it *appears* to me that neither is starting because they're effective swing players. From my POV, it's a mistake not to find a place on the line for them. I'd also like to see Rishaw Johnson, who held his own in the few plays he's been on the field.

Outside of that, Fasaso's return should help to extend drives, especially with he and McGrath on the field. And finally, I wish someone would step up and claim the slot.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am also talking about sustaining drives consistently.

Have we no led every game or almost every game in TOP?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Have we no led every game or almost every game in TOP?

sadly that's because of the defense, not because the offense is driving the ball.


we still have time to develop though

Our offensive line is young and not used to working with each other or in this system. They have also been rotating guys in and out with injuries all year. Better performance from the Oline will improve the offense across the board.

better running game
ability to run longer routes
more confidence for QB

*cross fingers*

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Have we no led every game or almost every game in TOP?

That doesn't actually have a whole lot to do with the offense so far. At a guess, they may actually be trailing ToP, on average, through three quarters. They just aren't effectively holding the ball. They're getting a lot of possessions, because the defense is pretty freaking amazing at getting itself off the field. They don't generally last real long (in time or in plays) and they tend to end in punts rather than points. If the defense falls off at all those ToP numbers would swing hard the other direction. We're basically winning a battle of attrition right now, to see which offense can be less bad.

You've watched the games: aside from Jacksonville, is there a single week where we began to take control at any point before the mid fourth quarter? That's the stagnant offense. And while it's a great way to win (hell, any win is a good win) it's a dangerous game to play.

Basically what I'm hoping to see is some consistent offensive numbers throughout the game. Four (or three, or hey, even two) quarters of good, efficient football from the offense and we'll be beating teams just as definitively as Denver. Just doing it a different way.