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11-17-2013, 12:06 AM | #16 |
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ALL those QB's had GREAT moments along the way. They all played GREAT for a few games and once THE game was over, they were never the same. It happened to Eli twice. You need more than just a great defense today. The rules are against you.
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11-17-2013, 12:18 AM | #17 |
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11-17-2013, 09:12 AM | #18 | |
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What has Aaron Rodgers done since getting his crazy huge contract? They had to cut their best receiver, and their defense and offense line is horrendous. |
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11-17-2013, 09:17 AM | #19 |
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Greg Jennings has done a spectacular job of raising the level of QB play in Minnesota.
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Joe Flacco was a first round pick and played at an elite level throughout the playoffs to win the MVP award and get his jewlery. To try to lump either of those guys in with Trent Dilfer is disingenuous at best. |
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11-17-2013, 11:35 AM | #21 | |
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I'm not sure he can and I think we are seeing Eli can't either. Maybe they can at times, but if being paid and taking up that much cap space, you need more than can at times, IMO. Either way, it's a good conversation about team building. |
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11-17-2013, 11:48 AM | #22 |
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Eli Mannings td:int ratio in his 2 superbowl playoff runs...
15td 1int Joe Flaccos td:int ratio in his superbowl playoff run... 11tds:0ints Joe Flacco the last 3 years in the playoffs... 18tds 2 ints Eli Mannings last 4 playoff runs... 17tds 5ints Anyone that would suggest that either of these teams should move on from these guys and just let them walk versus paying them market value might have a good conversation until you let your quarterback walk and replace him with someone not as good and needing development. |
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11-17-2013, 11:51 AM | #23 | |
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Or could you take a slightly lesser qb, Alana young draft pick etc, build your team around him while not breaking the bank on him and try and win that way? With the new passing rules, it's making it easier and easier for lesser qbs to be adequate. So if that's the case, why pay big money for guys who rely on the talent around them when you can get the same thig for cheaper? |
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11-17-2013, 11:54 AM | #24 |
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Those stats are against all playoff defenses, too.
Alex Smiths stats in 9 starts against almost exclusively non playoff teams? 9tds 4ints If I have the choice between paying either Eli or Flacco 20 or Alex Smith 11-12, I'd GLADLY take Flacco or Manning and posters here that say they wouldn't probably don't even watch playoff games. |
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11-17-2013, 11:56 AM | #25 |
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The question is, pay big money for a guy elevated by those around him not the other way around, which in turn handicaps what you put around him?
Its a tough decision and one I'm glad I don't have to make. |
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11-17-2013, 11:58 AM | #26 |
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O, it's not like Eli and Flacco did it with elite talent all around them...of course they got paid for what they can do in the future. What makes you think they can't repeat those performances WHEN THEIR TEAM NEEDS IT THE MOST?
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I don't think those two are good enough for that to happen. When they haven't had great situations around them, they haven't been a whole lot more than a mistake prone qb. |
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But look at he defenses etc. it's not just about offensive weapons. And if they can't cart the team to a position where they can make those repeat performances, what's the point? |
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11-17-2013, 12:00 PM | #29 |
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I think much of what Flacco accomplished in his. SB run was due in large part to Anquan Boldin.
At the same time, I think there's only a handful of QBs that could give those opportunities to Boldin. I am of the opinion that Flacco is overpaid. He's not a guy that raises the level of play. He's a guy that needs weapons, who plays to their level.
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11-17-2013, 12:00 PM | #30 |
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So if by some chance the Chiefs win the Superbowl and the choice boiled down to giving Smith a big contract or he walks, what do you do. If you keep Smith you have to let some of the guys on defense go.
So far, everyone has paid their boarder line franchise guy after he wins a SB. As a GM your job is to build a team capable of winning multiple SBs. Can you do it by rotating guys at the QB position and investing long term in the other parts of the team? The other factor is that QBs can stay at their prime level far longer than players at other positions. |
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