A ton of Kiper tidbits, some involving the Chiefs.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I just don't think an elite pass catcher is more important than an elite rusher, theoretically.

A playmaking pass rusher from the interior, IMO, is just a notch below qb.

An elite pass rusher in this scheme comes in the form of the OLB.

If you feel that Houston and Hali aren't that, then you want to upgrade their position. But it isn't going to come from the five tech in the 34 base of this particular scheme. It isn't supposed to and it won't.

Besides, how many Bruce Smith's/JJ Watt's have their been over the course of the last 30 years?

Probably as many as there have been John Elway's/Andrew Luck's.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

An elite pass rusher in this scheme comes in the form of the OLB.

If you feel that Houston and Hali aren't that, then you want to upgrade their position. But it isn't going to come from the five tech in the 34 base of this particular scheme. It isn't supposed to and it won't.

Besides, how many Bruce Smith's/JJ Watt's have their been over the course of the last 30 years?

Probably as many as there have been John Elway's/Andrew Luck's.

Also keep in mind that if you draft a defensive lineman, you're trusting that Bob Sutton will use him correctly.

I'd rather go offense and trust that Andy Reid will use them correctly.

While I agree with these guys that DL is important, you get difference makers like Poe long before the #23 pick.

This isn't a 2-14 team anymore. The window is NOW. You need guys that can come in and contribute right away for a playoff-caliber team.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Also keep in mind that if you draft a defensive lineman, you're trusting that Bob Sutton will use him correctly.

I'd rather go offense and trust that Andy Reid will use them correctly.

While I agree with these guys that DL is important, you get difference makers like Poe long before the #23 pick.

This isn't a 2-14 team anymore. The window is NOW. You need guys that can come in and contribute right away for a playoff-caliber team.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Also keep in mind that if you draft a defensive lineman, you're trusting that Bob Sutton will use him correctly.

I'd rather go offense and trust that Andy Reid will use them correctly.

While I agree with these guys that DL is important, you get difference makers like Poe long before the #23 pick.

This isn't a 2-14 team anymore. The window is NOW. You need guys that can come in and contribute right away for a playoff-caliber team.

Geno Atkins was a later pick and Aaron Donald compares to him.

In terms of dl players where we are drafting, you're probably looking at a guy who can start as a sub rusher and potentially become an every down player.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by O.city

Geno Atkins was a later pick and Aaron Donald compares to him.

In terms of dl players where we are drafting, you're probably looking at a guy who can start as a sub rusher and potentially become an every down player.

And Geno Atkins wouldn't really be Geno Atkins in the 3-4.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

And Geno Atkins wouldn't really be Geno Atkins in the 3-4.

Great players are great players

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by O.city

Great players are great players

Yes and no.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yes and no.

Th best teams take great players and find ways to fit them in their units. I don't wanna pigeonhole ourselves into certain players because of fit.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by O.city

Geno Atkins was a later pick and Aaron Donald compares to him.

In terms of dl players where we are drafting, you're probably looking at a guy who can start as a sub rusher and potentially become an every down player.

What a waste when you can get a guy like Amaro that could potentially be Smith's #1 option from the minute he steps on the field?

There's a reason this team hasn't won a playoff game in 2 decades but by all means, let's avoid drafting playmakers as much as possible...