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Old 03-10-2014, 01:24 PM   #1
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I was just playing with you a little but I am being honest when I say that the fact that you, along with a lot of people on CP, wanted to draft Geno Smith just goes to prove my point.

There was no perfect prospect at #1 overall. Just look at the top 10 of that draft evaluated purely on a hit or miss basis based entirely upon their rookie season without taking injuries, possible future improvements, etc. into consideration:

1. Eric Fisher, OT - miss (played injured a lot and played poorly too often because of it, weak sauce as a rookie)
2. Luke Joeckel, OT - miss (inj. and poor play)
3. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB - miss (coaching decision/scheme fit)
4. Lane Johnson, OT - decent (inconsistent play and looked bad early on, got better as season progressed and became middle of the pack OT)
5. Ziggy Ansah, DE - decent (solid 8 sacks as a rookie, not spectacular but decent production)
6. Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE- miss (disappointing rookie year especially considering all of the talent he is playing next to)
7. Jonathan Cooper, OL- miss (injury made him miss entire year)
8. Tavon Austin, WR- miss (really really weak player who will be nothing but a slot guy, Rams tried too hard to make it work with him on the outside)
9. Dee Milliner, CB- miss (sucked all season long, benched multiple times for a UDFA)
10. Chance Warmack, OG - miss (really inconsistent rookie season, just like almost all of the other top rookie OL players)
that's a little deceptive, you have to show the guys that slipped out of the top 10.

11 San Diego Chargers D. J. Fluker OT -(hit)
12 Oakland Raiders D. J. Hayden CB -(miss)/injured
13 New York Jets Sheldon Richardson DT -(hit) stud
14 Carolina Panthers Star Lotulelei DT -(hit) stud
15 New Orleans Saints Kenny Vaccaro S -(hit)
16 Buffalo Bills E. J. Manuel QB -(?)/injured
17 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Jones LB -decent, could turn into a hit because they just cut Woodley.
18 San Francisco 49ers Eric Reid† S -(hit)
19 New York Giants Justin Pugh OT -okay
20 Chicago Bears Kyle Long† G -(hit) stud
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Old 03-10-2014, 01:34 PM   #2
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that's a little deceptive, you have to show the guys that slipped out of the top 10.

11 San Diego Chargers D. J. Fluker OT -(hit) For a RT, yes, at LT he looked like crud.
12 Oakland Raiders D. J. Hayden CB -(miss)/injured
13 New York Jets Sheldon Richardson DT -(hit) stud
14 Carolina Panthers Star Lotulelei DT -(hit) stud
15 New Orleans Saints Kenny Vaccaro S -(hit) was solid all around but not exceptional
16 Buffalo Bills E. J. Manuel QB -(?)/injured wasn't even the best QB on his team
17 Pittsburgh Steelers Jarvis Jones LB -decent, could turn into a hit because they just cut Woodley. Had 1 sack, miss
18 San Francisco 49ers Eric Reid† S -(hit)
19 New York Giants Justin Pugh OT -okay Another "meh" guy, part of the terrible Giants OL so not much to write home about
20 Chicago Bears Kyle Long† G -(hit) stud Wasn't quite as good as people think but he was certainly among the best rookie OL men at OG
The hit rate was, at best, still around only 50% for the top 20. That's terrible odds that high in the draft.
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