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http://www.newschannel10.com/story/2...omeless-camper
Critics question the fatal shooting of a homeless camper Posted: Mar 24, 2014 5:20 PM CDT Updated: Mar 24, 2014 4:50 PM CDT New Mexico - Critics of the Albuquerque Police Department are raising serious questions about the fatal shooting of a homeless camper. 38-year-old James Boyd argued with police for more three hours last Sunday about illegally camping in open space. Boyd continued to refuse officer commands and began threatening their lives causing officers to open fire. Boyd had a violent 20-year criminal history including multiple incidents of violence against officers and years of mental health related concerns. |
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if he had the knife in his hand the entire time then it doesn't make sense on that being the reason they decided to shoot 3 hours later when hes had it in his hand the whole time.. |
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03-25-2014, 02:39 AM | #78 | |
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Once the guy produced the two knives (after the flash grenade and the decision to go "hands on"), I'd have one second to decide if all his threats (from previous encounters, and/or the three hour conversation could be legit, how credible those threats are (could he possibly kill someone with those knives) and if I thought my life or someone else's life was in danger. I watched the video a couple times. As two cops move up to arrest him, he dropped his bag and produced two knives. He took a stance of some sort. The first officer fired and the second officer fired with in milliseconds of each other. They are the "over watch" for the k9 officer (no gun drawn and within 10 feet of the wielded knives, the predesignated radius of leathal knife attacks) and the other "hands on" officer who was moving in to handcuff the guy. Could he throw the knives? Accurately? Luckily? Did he flench and turn his back because he was hit by a bullet? Was he ducking and preparing to throw a knife? That's a lot of questions I wouldn't be able to answer. Not even now as an arm chair QB, let alone react to in real time. You, and others, are claiming/asking if the shots were illegal because he was shot in the back, like it's so easy to know the outcome/intent. Or that he wasn't a real threat because he only had knives. But sick and drugged people in similar situations have been credible lethal threats with less than knives. Try not to focus on just the tragedy this human being lost his life, but remember the tragedy of another human living with taking a life. It's equally as disturbing. Calling him a murderer isn't remotely fair. It's hyperbole. It's political agenda and fame hunting getting the best of someone and influencing the diagnosis of this situation. Don't buy it, feed it or give it merit. The tragic truth is this man died because he didn't accept help for many years, and let the voices in his head dictate the outcome of how his life ended. |
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No solid reason. None. One of the cops that shot first was fired from the NM state police for fraud. Originally wasn't supposed to carry a gun when hired on by APD. Go figure.
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Anyway you look at it knifes are for sure "real" threats. At my job we always consider the 21 foot rule. A suspect with a knife can close a 21 foot distance and stab you before an officer can draw from a holster and fire a round. Also knifes never run out of "bullets."
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03-25-2014, 02:50 AM | #82 |
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What's the solid reasoning for dropping his bags and producing two knives as the officers approached him?
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03-25-2014, 03:42 AM | #83 |
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I think your avy sums up your position on this topic. But that's ok. Your imperfections pale in comparison to mine. Agree to disagree. No amount of arguing is going to change what happened.
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Mayor from the city agrees with most on here. Cops screwed up.
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03-25-2014, 06:54 AM | #86 |
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I have family in law enforcement. I realize that not all, even the majority are not bad people. But there is a serious epidemic in this country right now regarding horrible police acts. You have guys that were power-hungry jocks and bullies in high school getting an associates degree in criminal justice and then you hand them a weapon and give them complete freedom to piss on the rights of free men and women when they perceive a threat.
I see this and, in many cases, I wonder, "what is the difference between this and the treatment we see individuals receiving from the SS or state police of Nazi Germany in archive footage?"...there isn't one. We are considered the 'world police' and are quick to jump into action to aid countries where human rights are being abused, but we ignore it when it's happening in our own backyard. This is murder, plain and simple. You won't convince me otherwise.
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The video is now disabled. :-/ i went to send it to my buddy who is a cop in a bad area and deals with violent perps all day...wanted to get his opinion. But now video cannot be seen.
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Stupid dog lol
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That blue meth down in the ABQ is some potent shit.
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Looks like murder to me.
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