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View Poll Results: Who is better that Alex Smith?
Aaron Rodgers - Green Bay Packers 193 91.90%
Andrew Luck - Indianapolis Colts 178 84.76%
Andy Dalton - Cincinnati Bengals 49 23.33%
Ben Roethlisberger - Pittsburgh Steelers 138 65.71%
Brian Hoyer - Cleveland Browns 5 2.38%
Cam Newton - Carolina Panthers 108 51.43%
Carson Palmer - Arizona Cardinals 23 10.95%
Chad Henne - Jacksonville Jaguars 8 3.81%
Colin Kaepernick - San Francisco 49ers 86 40.95%
Derek Carr - Oakland Raiders 15 7.14%
Drew Brees - New Orleans Saints 187 89.05%
EJ Manuel - Buffalo Bills 13 6.19%
Eli Manning - New York Giants 87 41.43%
Geno Smith - New York Jets 25 11.90%
Jay Cutler - Chicago Bears 71 33.81%
Joe Flacco - Baltimore Ravens 89 42.38%
Matt Cassel - Minnesota Vikings 9 4.29%
Matt Ryan - Atlanta Falcons 115 54.76%
Matthew Stafford - Detroit Lions 104 49.52%
Mike Glennon - Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 4.76%
Nick Foles - Philadelphia Eagles 78 37.14%
Peyton Manning - Denver Broncos 185 88.10%
Philip Rivers - San Diego Chargers 156 74.29%
Robert Griffin III - Washington Redskins 59 28.10%
Russell Wilson - Seattle Seahawks 147 70.00%
Ryan Fitzpatrick - Houston Texans 7 3.33%
Jake Locker - Tennessee Titans 11 5.24%
Ryan Tannehill - Miami Dolphins 22 10.48%
Shaun Hill - St. Louis Rams 7 3.33%
Tom Brady - New England Patriots 190 90.48%
Tony Romo - Dallas Cowboys 95 45.24%
All of them 11 5.24%
None of them 9 4.29%
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:27 PM   #10
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You are the one who said 24 points is a meaningless arbitrary number. WTF are you talking about 34 point totals for?

I've made the case that 24 points is the area where, if you score more you are likely to win games, if you score less you are likely to lose games. You can't isolate lopsided losses and then analyze that as a trend.

OK, as a trend, when your Defense gives up 34 or more YOU ALMOST ALWAYS LOSE. PERIOD.

There is another fact for you.

The thing is, a forum member was spouting records based on when opponents score more than 24 points. You and some others called that meaningless. It is NOT meaningless, and I've showed you why it is not meaningless.

So if you win 6-3, that is an outlier, but it doesn't void the overall trend that in MOST games, if you score more than 24 or hold opponents to under 24, you GENERALLY win.

I don't care if you gave up 34 or 94 points in your losses. The trend is the trend. It is why the metric of 24 points you call "meaningless" is valuable, not meaningless.
It is meaningless when we are discussing Alex Smith and the Chiefs.

The post I was responding to was Clay said we were 1-6 in games we gave up 24 points in last year.

He missed the fact Smith didn't start in the SD game. So Smith lost 5 games last season as a starter.

We gave up 34 points a game in those loses on average and scored over 25.

Everything I stated was accurate, 24 points is not relative to the discussion we were having.
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