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Old 09-16-2014, 05:34 PM   #1
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You have to isolate Fisher, sorry. Who cares what the result of the play was.

Fisher moves to engage players and they disengage almost immediately. It's shameful.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:40 PM   #2
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You have to isolate Fisher, sorry. Who cares what the result of the play was.

Fisher moves to engage players and they disengage almost immediately. It's shameful.
You think that every run design for Fisher was to drive block his guy to the ground? Or that on every pass rush, his job is to engage and block the inside rush vs. driving a guy to the outside? There are plenty of blocks in that sequence where he does well enough. Again, you're blaming in several instances where Davis looks like he's choosing a different cutback lane because McGlynn consistently ****s his block up. Other instances where by design his job is to quickly get the guy out of the play.

In pass pro, we've already mentioned that in many cases he seems to show lazy effort with his arms. You've already acknowledged that most of his problems came later in the game. Again, it's important to note the difference between complete lack of talent vs. fixable technique vs. fatigue. There's a blend of those, a blend of plenty of blocks in that sequence where you're being overly critical or misjudging what he's supposed to do on that play, and yes, there are several where the block is just plain bad.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:45 PM   #3
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You think that every run design for Fisher was to drive block his guy to the ground? Or that on every pass rush, his job is to engage and block the inside rush vs. driving a guy to the outside? There are plenty of blocks in that sequence where he does well enough. Again, you're blaming in several instances where Davis looks like he's choosing a different cutback lane because McGlynn consistently ****s his block up. Other instances where by design his job is to quickly get the guy out of the play.
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I'm sure it was his job to end up on the ground, get ****ing body slammed or be driven three yards into the backfield.

Come on, man.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:56 PM   #4
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I'm sure it was his job to end up on the ground, get ****ing body slammed or be driven three yards into the backfield.

Come on, man.
I said there were bad blocks in there. I am talking about how you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough. And yeah, if Fisher's job is to turn his guy inside on a sweep? If Fisher's trying to cut his guy but McGlynn is slow to get out of the way? If Fisher seals a cutback lane but his teammates don't? You're making some massive assumptions about Fisher's assignment as well as the cutback lane.
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Old 09-16-2014, 05:57 PM   #5
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you conveniently sprinkled in lots of blocks where Fisher didn't necessarily create a great block, but did enough.
Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"
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Old 09-16-2014, 06:03 PM   #6
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Disagree. I don't see this at all.

Even if half of what you say is true allowing 5 QB hits doesn't jive with "Eric Fisher had a good game!"
Most people who said he had a good game have said his pass pro started to look rough toward the end of the game. I am not commenting on his pass pro because while some plays are pretty loosely thrown in there, there's some real bad ones. But in context, a lot of his problems look like fatigue.

The run blocking was very liberal. He did his job fine in a good chunk of those plays.
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