Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

[HolyHat]

We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

[Toby Waller]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Cam and Wilson are a lot alike. Cam is bigger with a stronger arm but he brings the same things.

Cam is such a rarity tho. He didn't read defenses a lot in college and adjusted to become a star.
Kaepernick, RG3, Vick, Geno, etc failed miserably while Cam didn't. He's truly a rare QB.

Cam will fail in the SB Too

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

What's the record blowout in a super bowl? Any Denver fans have the answer?

3 of the top 5
http://www.sportingcharts.com/articl...l-history.aspx

[ARROW2]

Cam is probably the best QB in the league but who a lot of the public roots for will be divided down racial and cultural lines. Sad but true. Let's just say what it is. Bottom line, carolina is the superior team and has the more dynamic QB. Plus, **** the donks!

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

There is something about cam that is just...off. Like he is completely fake...in a serial killer kind of way. I get a sociopath vibe from him...it's in the eyes.

Explains why Florida kicked him out of the program for being a thief and a locker room distraction. The dude stole a kids laptop for money while being on a full-ride scholarship. Insane.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I have a college education but I really don't need it to peg you for the dumbshit that you are

Explain why you are on this website 5 hours a day...unemployment checks?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by ARROW2

Cam is probably the best QB in the league but who a lot of the public roots for will be divided down racial and cultural lines. Sad but true. Let's just say what it is. Bottom line, carolina is the superior team and has the more dynamic QB. Plus, **** the donks!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...994/cam-newton

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/...russell-wilson

Russell Wilson plays with less talent yet has achieved so much more in a short period of time. He had to watch Percy Harvin disappear and the team let go of golden tate. Seattle's receivers are literally undrafted players and a 3rd round rookie. And where was Jimmy Graham all season? Yet he posts ridiculous numbers behind one of the worst rated O-lines.

Cam also has 3 quality running backs meanwhile RW has a broken Marshawn and Rawls was lost for the season.

Carolina's roster is stacked. Lotuleilei and Kuechly are the icing on the cake.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

everyone on the offense besides the line and olsen is a shit player elevated by Cam's presence.

You are kidding yourself if you are trying to say any of those RBs or WRs are any good.

If the Chiefs had any of those skill players this place would be ripping them because they would all be terrible for us. Cam polishes those turds.

Let's see 5 offensive line + Cam + Olsen + Stewart (career 4.5 YPC) = 8 out of 11 starters that are high quality

Add on the league's #2 defense.

Yet somehow you are telling me Cam is playing without talent?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Explains why Florida kicked him out of the program for being a thief and a locker room distraction. The dude stole a kids laptop for money while being on a full-ride scholarship. Insane.

How old was he then? How has be been since?

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Cam and Wilson are a lot alike. Cam is bigger with a stronger arm but he brings the same things.

Cam is such a rarity tho. He didn't read defenses a lot in college and adjusted to become a star.
Kaepernick, RG3, Vick, Geno, etc failed miserably while Cam didn't. He's truly a rare QB.

Kaepernick and Vick didn't fail miserably at all.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

How old was he then? How has be been since?

Well when you are criticized for sulking on the side line when your team is losing and you flip your lifted truck 4 times on the highway and fracture your back I wouldn't say that's much of an improvement. Just watch when all of this begins to fall apart over the next 2 seasons as their talent will begin to ask for fair market value.

I will bet that Wilson will continue doing his thing in Seattle while Cam goes back to being a 18TD/10INT QB at best.

Cam is more Kaepernick than he is Russell Wilson. I think people's short term memory failures are getting the best of em.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Well when you are criticized for sulking on the side line when your team is losing and you flip your lifted truck 4 times on the highway and fracture your back I wouldn't say that's much of an improvement. Just watch when all of this begins to fall apart over the next 2 seasons as their talent will begin to ask for fair market value.

I will bet that Wilson will continue doing his thing in Seattle while Cam goes back to being a 18TD/10INT QB at best.

Wilson will be fine and I highly doubt Newton regresses all the way down to ASS11 type levels. You have been about as wrong on this guy so far as one can be. Keep throwing shit on a wall Bob, eventually something may stick.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Cam is more Kaepernick than he is Russell Wilson. I think people's short term memory failures are getting the best of em.

Blackbob being Blackbob

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Wilson will be fine and I highly doubt Newton regresses all the way down to ASS11 type levels. You have been about as wrong on this guy so far as one can be. Keep throwing shit on a wall Bob, eventually something may stick.

Remind me what Cam's stat line was against the Seahawks?.. I have been saying all along that he is hiding behind the schemes of his brilliant coach. Just as Kaep did with harbaugh. Cam gets far more credit than he deserves meanwhile his extraordinary O-line and stable of running backs are carrying most of the load.

I can only hope the Chiefs pay for a RT and draft another OL so we can utilize West, Ware, and Charles to this level of efficiency.

[ChiefsCountry]

Bob took much semen from his uncle's skull ****ing.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Explain why you are on this website 5 hours a day...unemployment checks?

I have a smartphone, dumbass.