Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

[HolyHat]

We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

[ClevelandBronco]

"The Denver Broncos have traded the 32nd pick in the 2016 draft to the Carolina Panthers." Okay. Sure.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Thank you for putting words in my mouth, because I never once called them an elite group of WRs.

The exchange is LITERALLY A COUPLE POSTS BACK AND YOU STILL CANT INTERPRET IT CORRECTLY.

You said that what Seattle had was "below average" like Carolina (basically you admitting that Carolina's WRs, do in fact suck, which is the point of this entire argument, which you initially tried to argue they are good, but then admitted twice afterwards indirectly they aren't, but you sticking your foot in your mouth is besides the point.) Anyway...

I called the Seahawks WRs "pretty decent" in comparison to the absolute turds the Panthers have. Pretty decent does not equal ELITE by any stretch. It's sad you have to make up stuff posters don't actually say to feel you win sports arguments that you actually lose.

Your post was loaded with fail from the beginning. Hyping up a Seahawks receiving corps that didn't even have Percy Harvin for 95% of the season(yet you credit him for their success) along with undrafted receivers that RW has over time made into competent receivers. This is absolute idiocy.

And you don't even mention that Seattle O-line was ranked bottom five to finish the season. RW has been running for his life for the last 4 seasons. I mean, did you even watch the Panthers/seahawks divisional game??? Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLRqITJMVgM
That's a damn good Seattle defense yet Cam gets all day to make his throws

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Brock

Of course he's a different level QB. He's peaking as a player, and that's why Greg Olsen, who's been a barely above average TE his entire career has put up the best numbers of his career. But he's probably viewed as a Tony Gonzalez type player by a dumbass like you, bob. Oh, and carolina's ol is average.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-this-season/

Ranked #2, kid.

[SAUTO]

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[Brock]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-this-season/

Ranked #2, kid.

We don't use fake ass pff here, Nephew.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Your post was loaded with fail from the beginning. Hyping up a Seahawks receiving corps that didn't even have Percy Harvin for 95% of the season(yet you credit him for their success) along with undrafted receivers that RW has over time made into competent receivers. This is absolute idiocy.

And you don't even mention that Seattle O-line was ranked bottom five to finish the season. RW has been running for his life for the last 4 seasons. I mean, did you even watch the Panthers/seahawks divisional game??? Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLRqITJMVgM
That's a damn good Seattle defense yet Cam gets all day to make his throws

You are completely missing the point, that many people already tried to say to you.

Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate are better WRs than anything on the Panthers and it's not even close. It's that simple.

Until you can argue that Tedd Stonehands Ginn, Corey Brown and whatever other arena league players Cam is throwing to are better than either of them, which you can't, you lose.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

You are completely missing the point, that many people already tried to say to you.

Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate are better WRs than anything on the Panthers and it's not even close. It's that simple.

Until you can argue that Tedd Stonehands Ginn, Corey Brown and whatever other arena league players Cam is throwing to are better than either of them, which you can't, you lose.

But Greg Olsen!

[RobBlake]

is someone really tryin to say Cam has a good set of wrs? Ginn has been steady but he is always guaranteed a drop for a big gain. the other wrs? what? I wish he had Benj.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

You are completely missing the point, that many people already tried to say to you.

Doug Baldwin and Golden Tate are better WRs than anything on the Panthers and it's not even close. It's that simple.

Until you can argue that Tedd Stonehands Ginn, Corey Brown and whatever other arena league players Cam is throwing to are better than either of them, which you can't, you lose.

2015 Panthers personnel on offense is far more talented than what Russell Wilson had in 2013.

Choice A: Olsen, Gin, Funchess, Cotchery and 3 capable RB's behind the #2 O-line

Choice B: Luke Wilson at TE, two undrafted WR's Kearse/Baldwin who didn't even combine for 400 yards in 2012, Tate, and Lynch behind a bottom 5 ranked O-line

You are seriously going to sit here and claim that RW had it better than Cam??

[PizzaDoughz]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

2015 Panthers personnel on offense is far more talented than what Russell Wilson had in 2013.

Choice A: Olsen, Gin, Funchess, Cotchery and 3 capable RB's behind the #2 O-line

Choice B: Luke Wilson at TE, two undrafted WR's Kearse/Baldwin who didn't even combine for 400 yards in 2012, Tate, and Lynch behind a bottom 5 ranked O-line

You are seriously going to sit here and claim that RW had it better than Cam??

are you joking or just trolling? Choice B is more talented and it's not even close

[New World Order]

Why would you compare Wilson from 13 and Cam from 15?

Cam trumps Wilson in every category, and it isn't even close.

[BigCatDaddy]

So Bob, would you still not give up a 1st for the league MVP?

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So Bob, would you still not give up a 1st for the league MVP?

I'd give up a 1st and a 2nd for Russell Wilson.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by PizzaDoughz

are you joking or just trolling? Choice B is more talented and it's not even close

Reading comprehension. It's pretty key.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I'd give up a 1st and a 2nd for Russell Wilson.

I would to.

Now back to Cam... yes or no?