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Old 02-28-2016, 03:37 PM   #1
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There is also a problem when people put on their turn signal and immediately pull in front of someone thinking they have the right of way. A turn signal is there to show people you want to move over and not that everyone clear the hell out because I'm so damn important.

People have no idea what YIELD means.
There are those of us who hate driving.
I can't handle having to tolerate 200 strangers around me at high speeds. I can't drive 80 mph like it's no big deal. I stay distant from other cars. I'm the guy considered the one who is a bad driver and piss people off because I'm the one not driving like a race car driver. I can't shut my mind off like everyone else and drive like a robot who doesn't care and assumes everyone else sees me.
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Old 02-28-2016, 04:39 PM   #2
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There are those of us who hate driving.
I can't handle having to tolerate 200 strangers around me at high speeds. I can't drive 80 mph like it's no big deal. I stay distant from other cars. I'm the guy considered the one who is a bad driver and piss people off because I'm the one not driving like a race car driver. I can't shut my mind off like everyone else and drive like a robot who doesn't care and assumes everyone else sees me.
As long as you stay out of the left lane, I don't care if you drive 30 in a 60. Slower traffic keep right and pass left. One of the first rules of the road that has been forgotten, mostly by immigrant drivers like the Hispanics in white Ford box trucks with their paint supplies or ladders on the roof!
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Old 02-28-2016, 04:59 PM   #3
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As long as you stay out of the left lane, I don't care if you drive 30 in a 60. Slower traffic keep right and pass left. One of the first rules of the road that has been forgotten, mostly by immigrant drivers like the Hispanics in white Ford box trucks with their paint supplies or ladders on the roof!
I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. I was driving in a rural area, and there was a car cruising along at around the speed limit in the left lane. I had to pass it on the right, and it was a couple of people chatting.

It got me thinking about a focus group of drivers that I did many years ago. A young woman in that group said that she took off on a road trip, and figured out after a couple of hundred miles that she wasn't supposed to cruise in the left lane. She said, "I grew up in the city. You're supposed to cruise in the left lane there. How was I to know that it's different in the country?"

She actually brings up a good point about our inconsistent lane philosophies. If you're in a major metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to move toward the left so it's easier for others to get off and on. But if you're outside a metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to stay in the right lane.

I guess maybe the consistent part is that you leave the leftmost lane for passing, whether it's a 2-lane road or an 8-lane road. But even in metro areas you get the idiots who are cruising at a very high rate of speed and they're camping in the left lane.

One might think it's an issue of 2-lane roads versus multi-lane roads, but in a metro area a 2-lane road gets cruisers in both lanes, and that's kind of necessary.

So it makes me wonder. At what point when you're departing a metro area are you supposed to make the philosophical switch and never cruise in the leftmost lane?
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Old 02-28-2016, 05:02 PM   #4
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I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. I was driving in a rural area, and there was a car cruising along at around the speed limit in the left lane. I had to pass it on the right, and it was a couple of people chatting.

It got me thinking about a focus group of drivers that I did many years ago. A young woman in that group said that she took off on a road trip, and figured out after a couple of hundred miles that she wasn't supposed to cruise in the left lane. She said, "I grew up in the city. You're supposed to cruise in the left lane there. How was I to know that it's different in the country?"

She actually brings up a good point about our inconsistent lane philosophies. If you're in a major metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to move toward the left so it's easier for others to get off and on. But if you're outside a metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to stay in the right lane.

I guess maybe the consistent part is that you leave the leftmost lane for passing, whether it's a 2-lane road or an 8-lane road. But even in metro areas you get the idiots who are cruising at a very high rate of speed and they're camping in the left lane.

One might think it's an issue of 2-lane roads versus multi-lane roads, but in a metro area a 2-lane road gets cruisers in both lanes, and that's kind of necessary.

So it makes me wonder. At what point when you're departing a metro area are you supposed to make the philosophical switch and never cruise in the leftmost lane?
When there isn't an exit every 1/4 mile.
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Old 02-28-2016, 05:11 PM   #5
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When there isn't an exit every 1/4 mile.

The nearest large-ish city to me with that driving situation has it marked. There are signs up that say "Through Traffic Left Lane OK" or something like that. California is one of the 29 states (as of this 2010 article) where you are required to move over if traveling at a slower speed than normal traffic:

http://jalopnik.com/5501615/left-lan...e-by-state-map


The most popular law follows the Uniform Vehicle Code, which says a car driving below the "normal speed of traffic" should be driven in the right-hand lane. Because it indicates "normal speed" instead of saying "speed limit" a driver going above the speed limit but slower than most traffic is still in the wrong.
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:06 PM   #6
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I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. I was driving in a rural area, and there was a car cruising along at around the speed limit in the left lane. I had to pass it on the right, and it was a couple of people chatting.

It got me thinking about a focus group of drivers that I did many years ago. A young woman in that group said that she took off on a road trip, and figured out after a couple of hundred miles that she wasn't supposed to cruise in the left lane. She said, "I grew up in the city. You're supposed to cruise in the left lane there. How was I to know that it's different in the country?"

She actually brings up a good point about our inconsistent lane philosophies. If you're in a major metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to move toward the left so it's easier for others to get off and on. But if you're outside a metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to stay in the right lane.

I guess maybe the consistent part is that you leave the leftmost lane for passing, whether it's a 2-lane road or an 8-lane road. But even in metro areas you get the idiots who are cruising at a very high rate of speed and they're camping in the left lane.

One might think it's an issue of 2-lane roads versus multi-lane roads, but in a metro area a 2-lane road gets cruisers in both lanes, and that's kind of necessary.

So it makes me wonder. At what point when you're departing a metro area are you supposed to make the philosophical switch and never cruise in the leftmost lane?
The worst are those shitheels who purposely stay in the lane to keep others from going faster as if their self-annointed traffic hall monitor. Only to be topped by the people who pace the car next to them!
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:27 PM   #7
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The worst are those shitheels who purposely stay in the lane to keep others from going faster as if their self-annointed traffic hall monitor. Only to be topped by the people who pace the car next to them!
I call them "block-jobbers"
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:15 PM   #8
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I was thinking about this a few weeks ago. I was driving in a rural area, and there was a car cruising along at around the speed limit in the left lane. I had to pass it on the right, and it was a couple of people chatting.

It got me thinking about a focus group of drivers that I did many years ago. A young woman in that group said that she took off on a road trip, and figured out after a couple of hundred miles that she wasn't supposed to cruise in the left lane. She said, "I grew up in the city. You're supposed to cruise in the left lane there. How was I to know that it's different in the country?"

She actually brings up a good point about our inconsistent lane philosophies. If you're in a major metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to move toward the left so it's easier for others to get off and on. But if you're outside a metro area and you're going to travel 20 miles on a highway, you're supposed to stay in the right lane.

I guess maybe the consistent part is that you leave the leftmost lane for passing, whether it's a 2-lane road or an 8-lane road. But even in metro areas you get the idiots who are cruising at a very high rate of speed and they're camping in the left lane.

One might think it's an issue of 2-lane roads versus multi-lane roads, but in a metro area a 2-lane road gets cruisers in both lanes, and that's kind of necessary.

So it makes me wonder. At what point when you're departing a metro area are you supposed to make the philosophical switch and never cruise in the leftmost lane?
If there's more than 2 lanes in a metro area then the far left lane is still the "fast lane".
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Old 02-28-2016, 06:57 PM   #9
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As long as you stay out of the left lane, I don't care if you drive 30 in a 60. Slower traffic keep right and pass left. One of the first rules of the road that has been forgotten, mostly by immigrant drivers like the Hispanics in white Ford box trucks with their paint supplies or ladders on the roof!
I can't handle slow drivers in the fast lane. 1 lane roads I deal with slow drivers and try to keep off them, that is what it is. But driving in the left lane and using it as a casual drive makes me crazy.

I also can not stand when people put their blinker on as they are turning or a half second before. What is the ****ing point of that?! I want to see your blinker on as a heads up that you are about to slow down and turn. Once you break, don't even ****ing bother with the blinker. I don't give a shit which way you are turning, I need to know THAT you are going to turn.
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:09 PM   #10
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I can't handle slow drivers in the fast lane. 1 lane roads I deal with slow drivers and try to keep off them, that is what it is. But driving in the left lane and using it as a casual drive makes me crazy.

I also can not stand when people put their blinker on as they are turning or a half second before. What is the ****ing point of that?! I want to see your blinker on as a heads up that you are about to slow down and turn. Once you break, don't even ****ing bother with the blinker. I don't give a shit which way you are turning, I need to know THAT you are going to turn.
And for the love of God, pull into the turn lane before you hit your brakes!
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Old 02-28-2016, 09:33 PM   #11
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And for the love of God, pull into the turn lane before you hit your brakes!
I always find it weird when people slow down to a crawl before making a right turn. Obviously one must slow down before a turn, but I'm talking about the ones who slow down to half their speed or less when there's clearly a wide open path for them in an area with no bikes or pedestrians. They're the cousins of the people who brake before entering the left turn lane.
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