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04-20-2017, 08:27 AM | #121 |
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Westbrook is the worst of the 3.
If you were drafting and Durant, Harden, Westbrook are all on the board I think you go 1. Durant 2. Harden 3. Westbrook its hard to construct a scheme around Westbrook and his hero ball. Harden is a beast within a scheme |
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04-20-2017, 08:30 AM | #122 | |
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04-20-2017, 08:43 AM | #123 | |
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Pure on the court skills I'd probably take Durant because I do feel Westbrook shoots too much as a PG but it's close. I am concerned about Westbrooks shooting % this postseason. He is shooting 35%. That's horrible. |
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04-20-2017, 08:57 AM | #124 | |
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04-20-2017, 09:09 AM | #125 |
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Westbrook is a volume stat guy.
Harden has put up an efficient legit year and Durant is a top 5 player in the league. |
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04-20-2017, 09:12 AM | #126 |
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Harden wouldnt miss McBuckets 3 open times. Harden hits that pass to a wide open Eric Gordon every single time
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04-20-2017, 09:14 AM | #127 | |
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Westbrook can play with other superstars and did his entire career. He wasn't even the first option on his team until this year. Which he then goes on to averaging a triple double for the entire NBA season. That is just insane. Hypothetical, switch Westbrook and Harden and I bet the Thunder don't even make the playoffs. |
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04-20-2017, 10:27 AM | #128 | |
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Of course Westbrook can play with other superstars, that wasn't the debate. The question is which superstar can elevate the average to good talent around them. Harden is so efficient that guys like Eric Gordon and Clint Capela look like actual NBA players. And if flipped, Westbrook on Houston and Harden on the Thunder, I actually think the Thunder would be better. Obviously the pieces are worse but Harden paired with Roberson and McBuckets would find a way to make it work. Kanter wouldnt play a minute and you would need a stretch 4 but that's besides the point. Westbrook on the Rockets I don't think Lou and Gordon and dem boys get the same amount of shots up like they do with Harden, and thus the team would probably lose more games. |
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04-20-2017, 10:37 AM | #129 | |
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If Harden's efficiency is making Eric Gordon the player he is today, then it would be logical to think that Gordon is playing his best basketball of his career. Let me save you the time. He isnt. His season shooting percentage is the 2nd lowest in his career. His 3 point shooting percentage is the 4th lowest in his career. The idea that Gordon is exceeding his normal play due to Harden is absolutely absurd, and is not factual whatsoever. Thunder being better with Harden instead of Russell is not something either of us can prove, but it is indisputable that Harden's supporting cast is better than Russ'. Harden plays with like 4 or 5 players that would be the 2nd best player on the Thunder. |
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04-20-2017, 11:01 AM | #130 | |
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It was my argument on why Harden would have hit Doug McDermott all 3 times open and Westbrook didnt. Gordon was 3rd in the NBA in 3PA this year and still shot 37 percent, if you want to use a straw argument that doesn't stack up to his 44 percent season when he was getting 5 attempts per game fine. I don't care that Gordon isn't efficient, I care that Harden is more efficient than Westbrook. That's the indisputable fact here. I'm not the one arguing that Westbrook is better, because he's not. You want to use stats for Eric Gordon then I can use stats for James Harden, he beats Westbrook in almost everything, I'll save you the time. |
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04-20-2017, 11:26 AM | #131 | |
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04-20-2017, 11:57 AM | #135 |
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The Rockets were not projected to be good this year. They weren't projected to be close to this. They are one of the biggest surprises of the year and thats in part to Harden and D'Antoni. (Yes the same D'Antoni that was a failure on the Lakers and started this current crapfest downfall the New York Knicks are on)
Rockets took spare parts, literally a broken down Nene and platooned him with a guy named Clint Capela. They signed Eric Gordon to what clearly is now a very good looking deal for them so far, under market value. They paid probably top dollar for Ryan Anderson and were laughed at. Basically took the spare parts from NO that Anthony Davis couldn't win with that were labeled injury prone players and have given them more open looks than they have seen in their entire careers. Now you're saying they are better than the Thunder because you saw what the team can do this year, yo guess what the THUNDER HAVE 4 MAX CONTRACTS ON THEIR TEAM THE ROCKETS HAVE NOTHING CLOSE TO THAT. You can say its because of bad GMing all you want, but the Thunder are paying way more for their talent and they are getting way less out of it, scheme, coaching whatever. But if you want to say James Harden is only better than Westbrook because Eric Gordon is better than Oladipo (who is making almost 10 million more than Eric Gordon) then I'm going to laugh at you and call you an idiot. |
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