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Old 11-25-2017, 12:27 PM   #1
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Just look at their average production over the course of their careers, both individually and the offenses they have been in.

This isn't rocket science. Stop making excuses for a lame duck QB, homer.
I'm not making excuses for anyone. Milkman made a statement as if it were a fact instead of an opinion. If you make a statement of fact you should be able to show the facts to back it up. I mean how does he know it is a fact if he doesn't have the data to back it up?

If you read back in the thread you'll see where I agreed with someone who was critical of Smith. Some of you douchebags don't even pay attention.
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Old 11-25-2017, 12:31 PM   #2
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I mean how does he know it is a fact if he doesn't have the data to back it up?
You don't need hard data to prove that Alex Smith misses more open receivers than Tom Brady. The proof is in their career production.
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Old 11-25-2017, 12:55 PM   #3
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Old 11-25-2017, 02:04 PM   #4
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:24 PM   #5
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I bet he'd win the freaking super bowl
Brady's career is built on a defense backing him and he has never never never had a bad ol. The Pat's defense has never allowed more that 21 avg in any of their SB years either.
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Old 11-25-2017, 08:25 PM   #6
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Brady's career is built on a defense backing him and he has never never never had a bad ol.


****ing false. Any Pats fan will tell you this.
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Old 11-25-2017, 09:45 PM   #7
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****ing false. Any Pats fan will tell you this.
The Pats have been my 2nd favorite NFL team since Drew Bledsoe.

Outside of a window with Randy Moss, they have had average WR's that Brady has made look great.

Their SB receiving corps during Brady's reign. Hill is better than each one of those WR's. The Chiefs RB's have largely been better than what Brady has had since I've been a Chiefs fan. They have had very good TE's

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Old 11-25-2017, 10:05 PM   #8
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Brady's career is built on a defense backing him and he has never never never had a bad ol. The Pat's defense has never allowed more that 21 avg in any of their SB years either.
Sorry, but let me be blunt...

Was this meant to be serious? The ol gave up like 50 sacks when cassel was qb. Brady doesn't get sacked because he has extraordinary ability to slide in the pocket and because he has the quickest release in the league. Same ol, different, different results.

And Jfc, the pats defense has been average since mid 2000s. Often times borderine terrible. And while you mention it, he almost won a conference championship with a shite defense and with reche caldwell and Jabar Gaffney as his top receivers. So the argument that he's thrived off a supporting cast is totally off.
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Old 11-25-2017, 10:31 PM   #9
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Old 11-25-2017, 07:46 PM   #10
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:06 PM   #11
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You don't need hard data to prove that Alex Smith misses more open receivers than Tom Brady. The proof is in their career production.
Coming from the guy that loves to post stats.

You actually do need hard data to prove it. You and Milkman are assuming, not proving.
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Old 11-25-2017, 04:20 PM   #12
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You actually do need hard data to prove it. You and Milkman are assuming, not proving.
No, you don't. Ever heard of occam's razor?

What you also apparently don't understand is that no one gives a shit about defending Alex Smith anymore.

We don't have to prove anything. Everyone knows what he is.
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:03 PM   #13
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No, you don't. Ever heard of occam's razor?

What you also apparently don't understand is that no one gives a shit about defending Alex Smith anymore.

We don't have to prove anything. Everyone knows what he is.
As I pointed out to you earlier I am not defending Alex Smith. I am just expecting people to stop pulling shit out of their asses without data to back it up. WTF is wrong with you, are you reading impaired?
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Old 11-25-2017, 05:27 PM   #14
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As I pointed out to you earlier I am not defending Alex Smith.
Yes you are. You are a Smith homer. You rush to his defense every time in these debates.

You're so committed to the hopeless fantasy that he's a championship QB that you:

1. Don't care about the obvious evidence that his penchant for missing open receivers is a problem.

2. Invent another fantasy, where Tom Brady or other elite QBs miss open receivers at a similar rate.

You really, really, really like this shitty QB, and you want him to be good sooooo bad that you just invent flights of fancy so you can maintain your cognitive dissonance that the Chiefs can win a Super Bowl with him at QB.
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