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We’ve got to get Eric Murray off the field
Everybody pretty much did their job here in the back end except Murray. This defense looks so much worse because of him. The guy just doesn’t have a good read on coverage. It sucks that we are pressed to play him bc we are forced too due to Sorenson and Berry being hurt. FWIW Armani Watts played 16 defensive snaps in the Steelers game as opposed to 3 in LA. I think he’s coming up to speed. Only a matter of time until Murray is on the bench and we look better. |
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09-20-2018, 03:58 PM | #136 | |
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09-20-2018, 05:31 PM | #137 |
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That play wasn't entirely Murray's fault, really. It was mostly Nelson's (or whoever was the CB on the bottom of the screen). He sticks with his man across the end zone instead of passing him off to the deep safety and maintaining his zone, which the TE comes open into. Murray was a bit too shallow, but putting this 100% on Murray is stupid.
That said, Murray does suck alot of ass in the grand scheme, so I am on board with replacing him. |
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09-20-2018, 05:55 PM | #138 |
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You don't palm off players in deep zones if they will be running wide open. Murray has to do a better job of staying with the late crossing route, thats his job there. You cant take zones so literally.
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09-20-2018, 05:57 PM | #139 |
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Zones and the coverages will always be dictated by the routes run and where receivers line up. Thats 100% on Murray.
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09-20-2018, 06:33 PM | #140 |
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09-20-2018, 07:30 PM | #141 |
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I have to agree that I see this more on Nelson. I think Murray does work his way out of position. Certainly him and the LB to his left are too close but in the end if Nelson is in his zone Ben is forced to make a dangerous pass.
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09-20-2018, 07:30 PM | #142 |
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Edit. I think Parker has to first commit to stopping the seam route but the player cuts his route off. Its a tough one, but looks like the cocept is designed to get parker to cheat up and get nelsons guy free. Last edited by Chiefs=Champions; 09-20-2018 at 07:40 PM.. |
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The shallow zone defenders are supposed to pick up late crossing routes. Thats what they are taught. Parker has to go with the seam route. Thats how it works. You dont pass a player simply because thats not where your zone is, theres give and take. If anyone is guilty of not playing their zone it would be Murray for over committing to Hitchen's zone.
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09-20-2018, 07:38 PM | #144 | |
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Nelson made a mistake. As soon as he tried to cover for Murray, he left his zone open. Absolutely cannot happen. |
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09-20-2018, 07:44 PM | #145 |
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Of course you do to an extent. But not entirely. Its real easy to pick apart in hindsight. Murray has to go with the crosser he needs to anticipate it better. And maybe nelson needs to work back, but initially ron is covering the seam route.
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09-20-2018, 07:47 PM | #146 |
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If nelson stays strictly in his zone thats an easy touchdown to the receiver.
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Murray needs to feel the wr and come more towards the sideline as hitchens does. 3 **** ups there. That’s why guys need time to practice together |
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You have to flow to where the receivers are, zones are fluid. We can blame Nelson, Parker and Murray. But Murray has to have better awareness there, thats my opinion, you can have yours.
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