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Old 03-04-2019, 06:13 PM   #1
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Gutting the only part of this defense that was good in 2018 would be a pretty poor start for Veach, yes. Especially considering there isn't anyone hitting the free agent market that is as good of a passrushing as Dee Ford. Trey Flowers is your best bet and then you're paying 14-17 million for a Belicheck cast off whose best season sack total is 7.5. yay.
That's the other thing. You'd be paying Flowers MORE than what you'd pay Ford this year. And you'd be locked into him, unlike Ford.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:14 PM   #2
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That's the other thing. You'd be paying Flowers MORE than what you'd pay Ford this year. And you'd be locked into him, unlike Ford.
And if you tag Ford this year......what are you doing with him next year?

If he has another break out year....then the cost of his contract just increased a ton. Or you let him walk and get a 3rd round comp pick out of him....assuming you don't sign anyone else.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:16 PM   #3
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And if you tag Ford this year......what are you doing with him next year?

If he has another break out year....then the cost of his contract just increased a ton. Or you let him walk and get a 3rd round comp pick out of him....assuming you don't sign anyone else.
If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:17 PM   #4
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If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
He’d be older and you couldn’t get any value out of a deal after the tag
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:19 PM   #5
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If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
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Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
This. If they want to give Ford a contract.....now is the time. Franchising him and then signing him is going to increase the size of the contract a shit ton because he's going to look at that franchise tag and want that per year starting out.
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Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
If a team is willing to pony up the draft picks you take them and free up the $ and get the young talent.

No way you give Ford a long term deal IMO.
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Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
He's not proven yet.
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And if you tag Ford this year......what are you doing with him next year?

If he has another break out year....then the cost of his contract just increased a ton. Or you let him walk and get a 3rd round comp pick out of him....assuming you don't sign anyone else.
Ideally you get another double digit sack high pressure season
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If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
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Ideally you get another double digit sack high pressure season
And then he costs even more......sweet.
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And then he costs even more......sweet.
Tag and trade him then after

You still get the production in a year you’re wanting to be aggressive and push for a super bowl
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Tag and trade him then after

You still get the production in a year you’re wanting to be aggressive and push for a super bowl
Yup.
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And then he costs even more......sweet.
Talented players cost money.
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That's the other thing. You'd be paying Flowers MORE than what you'd pay Ford this year. And you'd be locked into him, unlike Ford.
1) I doubt it will be MORE, but it will likely be similar
2)He's younger than Ford, without the injury history. I have no problem paying a good young player on a multi-year deal.
3) Flowers over Ford makes your defense better OVERALL.
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