Tyreek: At what point do we point blame for the game and season

[wutamess]

I know you guys want to blame the refs, The 3rd & 27 call, Spags and the defense as a whole.

However, if Tyreek catches that ball right before the half, this game is out of reach. Before someone says, "he got it hit out of his hands"... do you think Chase or Higgins would've dropped that pass yesterday? They're purely hand catching WRs.

Tyreek has always been a body catcher and it's been a 50/50 shot if it hits his hands. Him and Kelce are a HUGE reason for us going 3-4 to start the season as they're DEFINITELY fuel to the early season turnover machine we've become.

I surely hope he works on catching with his hands such as the greats (D. Hopkins comes to mind). Once he does that, he'll definitely be THE top WR in the league. Right now, he seems more like an athlete that's playing WR. Not a true WR.

https://youtu.be/kU6yIpghmLU?t=483

[Wallcrawler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't disagree with you - it's not what I'd have done. I'd give up the FG and play the boundaries to take even the risk of a TD off the board.

As you noted - we have PM. And in a 4 down situation w/ 3 timeouts I still think he's damn near unstoppable in a gotta have it drive.

But I do think that was the logic behind it and it wasn't entirely unreasonable.

Chase had 10 catches for 236 and 3 td to the point of 3rd n 27.

Take a moment. Let it sink in.

TEN CATCHES.

236 YARDS

3 TOUCHDOWNS .


It is absolutely, ONE THOUSAND PERCENT UNREASONABLE to call ANY single coverage on Chase at this point.

He has skull****ed both of your eye sockets and your mouth to this point.

Situational football? Sounds hard?

Let's take a look.

It's 3rd n 27, tie game, they're looking at 60 yard fg if they don't gain another yard. My defensive scheme has been assraped so hard that we've got a pink sock prolapse going on here.

Who would Joe Burrow look to here? Gotta have it, 3rd down.

Chase? Nah. Single coverage. Matter of fact, zero blitz.

This is Pete Carrol Superbowl goal line pass level stupidity.

Everyone watching the game knew this down, the ball was going to Chase. Why would it not?

Unfathomable stupidity and a very concerning lack of awareness as to what has taken place in the game to this point to call any single coverage on Chase, let alone a zero blitz.

If that had been a playoff loss, dude would be run out of KC as fast as Dee Ford.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Chiefs had lots of opportunities to win. That play, the kickoff return, 3rd and 27.

They just blew it, period. This might be a valuable lesson we learned right before the postseason. Glass half full.

Exactly where I’m at. This team is feast or famine. We rarely famine with Reek.

[FloridaMan88]

Interesting who is leading the NFL in dropped passes, according to this:

NFL Leaders - Dropped Passes

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Over 100 catches.

Over 1,000 yards.

Against defenses specifically built to stop him.

Not a true wr.

seriously


best receiver for the Chiefs ever? Not a true WR.

When did Jalen Ramsey join chiefsplanet

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Interesting who is leading the NFL in dropped passes, according to this:

NFL Leaders - Dropped Passes

I swear Mondays after a loss the stupid here goes full tilt.

[hoosierbengal]

Originally Posted by JudasRising20

We likely get a FG if he catches that. Probably not enough time to do anything else............I'm just going off memory here.

The Pringle kickoff TD would be a bigger blow for the Bengals.

I agree. I think if the KO return would have stood I don’t think the Bengals recover from that. As soon as it happened I was like welp that does it. 35-14 would have been bad bad for the Bengals.

[hoosierbengal]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You clearly haven’t watched Chase this year if you think he’s incapable of dropping balls.

Correct, I think Chase has 10 drops this season.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by hoosierbengal

Correct, I think Chase has 10 drops this season.

You should stick around.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by eDave

I got downvoted bad yesterday for saying the O needs to play better.

The offensive performance in the second half yesterday was bad. I don't know how anyone could argue otherwise.

Should Tyreek have caught that pass before half. Yes. Absolutely. But that 3rd and 27 defensive call is way more responsible for the loss than Tyreek Hill. Chase was chewing up and shitting out our defense all day. And yes I mean shitting out instead of spitting out.

I believe there is absolutely no excuse for not giving Ward help over the top on that particular play. 3rd and 27 and Spags doesn't double the guy who already had two 50+ yard TD catches? Spags lost the game on that play, and on every he didn't double Chase on after the 70 yard TD pass.

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[carlos3652]

Roger, I usually love your takes. The TD drop, and the 60 yard bomb were both catchable balls, and Tyreek will catch those 8/10 times. I sent a text at halftime to my fantasy league asking if something was up with Reek. He is elite though. Blaming him for a 3-4 start or the loss yesterday is a pretty bad take.

The 5 losses we have this year, is because the defense was making the Offense we faced, Historically good.

I think if I remember correctly, the stat was, that every offense we faced, if they played us 16 / 17 games, we would make them a top 10 historic offense all time.

Kelce, nor Reek, nor Mahomes should be blamed for any of our losses. Have they had bad games. Yes. Have they not played their best ALL season long. Yes. But blaming them for any of the losses is foolish considering what the _efense did in those games.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by loochy

Wutamess: At what point do you drink antifreeze and die in a fire

This was good, but was really hoping for at Wut point do you ....

[Molitoth]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Also fans who get weird about dropped passes amuse me.

You take somebody of Tyreek’s talent and go, “These dropped passes are inexcusable!” as if Tyreek dropped passes and all isn’t still a top 5 WR in the NFL. You’d really take somebody less talented who just “catches the damn ball,” eh?

Hunter Rentfrow is a great hands catcher, let me tell you. And he he’s still decently good, too. Would you trade Tyreek for Rentfrow straight up?

Because I’m pretty sure a well mannered guy like Patrick Mahomes would even call you a ****ing reerun

I'm very critical of dropped passes... but Tyreek and Kelce get a pass because of the success they have to make up for the drops.

Shithead likes Kemp, Drob, Gordon, and other WR's that are trying to earn a spot on the team and are dropping 25% of the passes intended to them? Get out of here with that. Pat isn't going to trust you, and you being on the field is a waste of a spot.

Earn some trust, make some plays... then have your occasional drop.

[Reroka]

Won't lie if hill would have caught that 64-yard bomb this would have been a different game.

Throughout the season this has been an issue. Too many drops or balls going off the hands and being intercepted.

over half the interceptions of Mahomes are tipped balls.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Roger I'd like to add that I love love love that new avatar! Happy New Year my guy.

Gracias senor! I've always had that avatar. It's at least 3-5 years old.
Just been lurking for so long.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by Reroka

Won't lie if hill would have caught that 64-yard bomb this would have been a different game.

Throughout the season this has been an issue. Too many drops or balls going off the hands and being intercepted.

over half the interceptions of Mahomes are tipped balls.

This right here... Not only were they ints, they've also been pick 6 drops. Everyone can throw all the stats out in the world about how he broke all the WR records. Until the MF catches balls with consistency he's an athlete playing WR.

He's athletically special. Like I said if he isn't as athletic as he is, he's Pringle at best if only relying on his ability to catch.