Tyreek: At what point do we point blame for the game and season

[wutamess]

I know you guys want to blame the refs, The 3rd & 27 call, Spags and the defense as a whole.

However, if Tyreek catches that ball right before the half, this game is out of reach. Before someone says, "he got it hit out of his hands"... do you think Chase or Higgins would've dropped that pass yesterday? They're purely hand catching WRs.

Tyreek has always been a body catcher and it's been a 50/50 shot if it hits his hands. Him and Kelce are a HUGE reason for us going 3-4 to start the season as they're DEFINITELY fuel to the early season turnover machine we've become.

I surely hope he works on catching with his hands such as the greats (D. Hopkins comes to mind). Once he does that, he'll definitely be THE top WR in the league. Right now, he seems more like an athlete that's playing WR. Not a true WR.

https://youtu.be/kU6yIpghmLU?t=483

[BWillie]

I think the running a cover 0 blitz on 3rd and 27 might have been a little more of the issue.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I think the running a cover 0 blitz on 3rd and 27 might have been a little more of the issue.

That's just it... This Hill issue has been season long. That particular play changes the entire complexion of the game. Not saying the 3rd & 27 call wasn't important, I guess I'm just sick of Tyreek costing us possible games when he's supposed to be a master at his craft.

If Tyreek has D. Hops speed and quickness he'd be an Byron Pringle at best. That's my point of him being an athlete playing WR.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Chiefs had lots of opportunities to win. That play, the kickoff return, 3rd and 27.

They just blew it, period. This might be a valuable lesson we learned right before the postseason. Glass half full.

That's where I'm at. I always like my basketball teams to lose a close one right before March Madness to keep them humble and focused, so I'm choosing to do the same this go around.

It sucks having to play another game, and I hate that it will likely be the Chargers in round 1, but I still think we are the better team overall. The other side of it is that I don't think Tennessee makes it to the AFC Championship, and even if they do, I think we'd beat them in a rematch.

[Hammock Parties]

This team was not humbled before the playoffs last season.

They just got a big ****ing wake up call.

This really might be for the best.

[Gary Cooper]

We likely get a FG if he catches that. Probably not enough time to do anything else............I'm just going off memory here.

The Pringle kickoff TD would be a bigger blow for the Bengals.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This team was not humbled before the playoffs last season.

They just got a big ****ing wake up call.

This really might be for the best.

I'm definately settled with this too. I'm getting why it happened, let's make it bite them in the ass.

[PunkinDrublic]

Tyreek is a master route runner as well as elite at tracking the ball and this is what you’re pissing and moaning about. More often than not Tyreek makes plays and this is while being covered by multiple defenders. Everyone has drops but Tyreek has lengthy history of coming up big in key moments. Really stupid post.

[mr. tegu]

Athletes that play WR don’t run routes, find open space, or command three defenders at the levels Hill does. Just a terribly unfounded opinion.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Tyreek is a master route runner as well as elite at tracking the ball and this is what you’re pissing and moaning about. More often than not Tyreek makes plays and this is while being covered by multiple defenders. Everyone has drops but Tyreek has lengthy history of coming up big in key moments. Really stupid post.

Never said he wasn't any of those. I said he can't catch with his hands and it's cost us games (as in plural) just this season.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by wutamess

Never said he wasn't any of those. I said he can't catch with his hands and it's cost us games (as in plural) just this season.

He absolutely makes catches with his hands, but I think there's some of that punt returner instinct in him that on occasion has him trying to cradle those balls he can square up to.

If he attacks that ball with his hands he can tuck it away from the DB that popped it out of there. He SHOULD'VE caught it. But c'mon - there's no sense in overstating things.

He's an excellent receiver and yes, will absolutely hands catch, but it's usually when he's on the fly and trying to catch/run in one motion.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

There will be at least 3 teams in the playoffs that we've lost to this year. That's good for us in the long run.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Tyreek has had way too many drops this season. He needs to tighten up in that area and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it.

[jettio]

That was a high trajectory ball thrown on a windy day. I think it hit his shoulder pad before his hands. Mahomes and Reid both say that Tyreek has elite ability to track a ball in the air like an elite MLB outfielder.

Fans allocating blame is a stupid waste of time. What if you came up with a chart that perfectly assigned the right amount of blame to each player and coach? Could you trade the chart in for a win?

Would you use the chart to try to convince a player to accept less pay than they could get from another team?

Brett Veach is not going to do that because he knows that other teams will pay market value.

The whole idea of allocating blame is silly. And acting like the defensive back is not there makes allocating blame on that play even sillier.

[wutamess]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He absolutely makes catches with his hands, but I think there's some of that punt returner instinct in him that on occasion has him trying to cradle those balls he can square up to.

If he attacks that ball with his hands he can tuck it away from the DB that popped it out of there. He SHOULD'VE caught it. But c'mon - there's no sense in overstating things.

He's an excellent receiver and yes, will absolutely hands catch, but it's usually when he's on the fly and trying to catch/run in one motion.

That's IT! I never thought of it until you stated it. He catches balls like punts. Makes sense since he's a converted punt returner (remember Ramsey called him that his first couple of years). I've always wondered why he tries to catch the majority of balls thrown to him with his body. You just hit the nail on the head.

[carcosa]

It's the gloves!!!!!