So when do people stop going out to eat?

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by FlaChief58

Fast food joints will never get tipped from me, especially now that they're making $15 an hour. No Tyler, I'm not giving you a tip for putting my food in a sack and handing it to me. Sit down restaurants with actual servers are a different story. I start at 15% and based on the quality of service, it goes up or down.

Yeah, the tipping culture is out of hand, even worse than normal.

The ethical challenge for me is that I want people to make a livable wage, and a lot of jobs don't do that.

Having said that, if the person at the fast food window is making $17 an hour now, and then getting (total guess here) another $5 an hour in tips, that's a full-time equivalent of almost $46,000 per year. In Denver, that actually qualifies as a livable wage, and I wonder how it compares to a lot of new college grad jobs.

Good for them if they can make a livable age at the fast food window, I guess. But they'd better be doing a really good job of giving me fast service and good food.