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07-22-2008, 04:49 PM | #2 |
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First in with antifreeze.
In all seriousness, get him help.
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But if he doesnt WANT help, is there anything more we can do is my problem...
We obviously want to get him help. I am personally concerned that suicide may be in the future for him if these things cannot be dealt with.
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Dave, is the drinking new or has it always been there and the recent events exacerbated the problem?
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So, recent events have made it worse.
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No clue here but my only advice would be to do SOMETHING. Keep in closer contact with him than normal, express your concerns and offer help of any kind. For people who have addictions the first stage in really getting better is to admit there is a problem and that they do need help. I have dealt with this to a much lesser extent and it took a while to help the person to see that they were hurting not only themselves but their loved ones too...once he saw that it was easier to help him help himself. Good luck.
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If you truly think he is considering suicide, ask him to his face if that is what his intention is. You will know immediately. Good luck. |
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Intervention is of course something that we will be doing...
I guess my question is more of the aspect that if he is an adult, and refuses help, is there anything further that we can do? I have calls into people that I know that have dealt with these types of issues before but wanted to see if anyone here really had any experience dealing with this before and could give me "first hand" information bsaed on their experience.
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Bottom line, you can not make some one quit. They have to decide for themselves, and until that happens... As far as the emotional/mental stuff going on, that is way over my head. |
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In my experience (one alcoholic sister-in-law and one depressed close friend), there is only so much you can do to help someone. I would say that keeping your brother away from alcohol and drugs as much as possible is a good start. Literally knock the beer out of his hands if you see him with it. Try to get him to counseling. Try to get everyone who knows him aware of the problem and try to get them to offer support (phone calls, visits, counsel, etc.).
Sadly, you also need to prepare yourself as best as you can for the worst because, ultimately, your brother's depression and addiction are beyond your control. I wish I could be more encouraging but people have to help themselves. |
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What 52 said is pretty much correct, you can ONLY hope the intervention helps him realize that he has people that love him and want to see him do ok in life without the use of alcohol and drugs. Drugs will come into play sooner or later. If that doesn't wake them up, then your in for a rough rough time with him. If he doesnt want to get better, then there is nothing anyone can do.
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Things have to be severe before any judge will declare an adult incompetent. My sister-in-law spent decades spiraling downward, countless visits to the ER, multiple near-death accidents (bleeding out of her throat, falling and bashing her head open, etc.) and it was only at the end that she was declared incompetent.
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Sometimes people have to hit rock bottom before they wise up. Your brother will likely deplete his life savings, take out $100k in loans, and then finally hit rock bottom with or without your support.
Not trying to be a party pooper. That's just the way it is. Human beings are incredibly complex individuals - especially those of us with Freudian issues. |
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