Brian Orakpo makes his case:

[talastan]

Originally Posted by Laz

hell no

he's much stronger and plays with more power than Kiwi


that said .... i would be happier if these sentence was reversed

"with all his great accomplishments on the field, his accomplishments in the weight room have been legendary"


this would be much better


"with all his great accomplishments in the weight room, his accomplishments on the field have been legendary"

Yes but you'd think that with his strength training being top notch that we should be able to coach him up to use that power to his advantage.(Provided we actually get a DL coach)

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by talastan

Yes but you'd think that with his strength training being top notch that we should be able to coach him up to use that power to his advantage.(Provided we actually get a DL coach)

that's the 40 million dollar question


if we can, then we have our own Dwight Freeney/Derrick Thomas/Michael Strahan ...... who are worth virtually any draft pick and can change your entire defense.

if not .......

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Laz

that's the 40 million dollar question


if we can, then we have our own Dwight Freeney/Derrick Thomas/Michael Strahan ...... who are worth virtually any draft pick and can change your entire defense.

if not .......

I don't think Orakpo has the potential to be a pass rushing terror in the mold of Freneey or DT. He's just not that quick.

On the other hand, I think he could be a greater asset in the running game than those two, and overall I see him as a solid DE that is good in a few areas but not really great at anything. Think Chris Long/Justin Smith/Grant Wistrom.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I don't think Orakpo has the potential to be a pass rushing terror in the mold of Freneey or DT. He's just not that quick.

On the other hand, I think he could be a greater asset in the running game than those two, and overall I see him as a solid DE that is good in a few areas but not really great at anything. Think Chris Long/Justin Smith/Grant Wistrom.

then he is NOT worth a top 10 pick in your opinion

[eazyb81]

Originally Posted by Laz

then he is NOT worth a top 10 pick in your opinion

The three guys I mentioned were all drafted in the top ten, so I don't know why he shouldn't be, especially in a weak draft like this year. I'm just saying at this point I don't see him as a sack machine like DT or Freeney. He seems like more of a solid, all-around DE. That said, I really want to see how he runs at the combine. If he puts on a show then I reserve the right to change my opinion.

[talastan]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

The three guys I mentioned were all drafted in the top ten, so I don't know why he shouldn't be, especially in a weak draft like this year. I'm just saying at this point I don't see him as a sack machine like DT or Freeney. He seems like more of a solid, all-around DE. That said, I really want to see how he runs at the combine. If he puts on a show then I reserve the right to change my opinion.

Which I think is the best way to start. We have to have someone who can contain LT/Sproles, Any of the Dungver RB, Fargas/McFadden. The sacks will come if we can keep teams at third and long.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by talastan

Which I think is the best way to start. We have to have someone who can contain LT/Sproles, Any of the Dungver RB, Fargas/McFadden. The sacks will come if we can keep teams at third and long.

actually we get offenses into 3rd and long all the freaking time ... we just can't generate a natural enough pass rush to ever stop them even on 3rd and 20.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

The three guys I mentioned were all drafted in the top ten, so I don't know why he shouldn't be, especially in a weak draft like this year. I'm just saying at this point I don't see him as a sack machine like DT or Freeney. He seems like more of a solid, all-around DE. That said, I really want to see how he runs at the combine. If he puts on a show then I reserve the right to change my opinion.

Flip-Flopper!!!!!!!!

[talastan]

I think that by having the basis of a good DE, then this guy will set himself up for getting sacks. It'll be hard to sack a QB if the other team can just run the ball for a first down. The D keeps the opposition at third and long, then Orakpo, DJ, Dorsey, or whoever can pin their ears back and kill the QB. He has proven at Texas he is very versatile in a pass rush and at protecting the edges. I think he is our guy. Legit pass rush (like Allen, or ol' Neil Smith), with the ability to stop the run if needed.

[BigChiefFan]

Originally Posted by eazyb81

I don't think Orakpo has the potential to be a pass rushing terror in the mold of Freneey or DT. He's just not that quick.

On the other hand, I think he could be a greater asset in the running game than those two, and overall I see him as a solid DE that is good in a few areas but not really great at anything. Think Chris Long/Justin Smith/Grant Wistrom.

I agree that Orakpo has alot more upside as being an everydown DE, because he can contain the run, but I see him more in the role of a Michael Strahan, in that his game speed is quicker than his TIMED speed and his strength can overpower LTs. You are right in that he won't be a speed rusher, but I believe he will still definitely get after the QB more than some may think.