NFL Draft Brian Orakpo makes his case: - Page 3

talastan · 12-18-2008, 11:32 PM

I had already posted in the draftplanet forum but thought this would be something everyone would want to see here in the Lounge. Wow big, big man.

talastan · 12-19-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He's a damn good prospect, who has yet to hit his ceiling. Again, I think he has Michael Strahan type talent. He's also PASSIONATE about football. As of now, he's considered a top 5 prospect-we'll have to pull the trigger early, if this is who we want. I'd love to have the franchise QB, but Orakpo would make a nice addition, as well and I certainly won't be disappointed, In fact, I think Stafford drops some and we might be able to add BOTH players, if we get creative.

Doubt it would happen, but if Stafford isn't there, and this guy is you have to pull the trigger IMO. Orakpo and Dorsey on the same line has the makings of a great one, like the Giants, IMO.

Pasta Little Brioni · 12-19-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

He's a damn good prospect, who has yet to hit his ceiling. Again, I think he has Michael Strahan type talent. He's also PASSIONATE about football. As of now, he's considered a top 5 prospect-we'll have to pull the trigger early, if this is who we want. I'd love to have the franchise QB, but Orakpo would make a nice addition, as well and I certainly won't be disappointed, In fact, I think Stafford drops some and we might be able to add BOTH players, if we get creative.

I think it's a bit wishfull thinking that we could acquire both, but damn I like your idea of getting them

That would be awesome.

talastan · 12-19-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I think it's a bit wishfull thinking that we could acquire both, but damn I like your idea of getting them

That would be awesome.

I agree talk about one helluva draft!!

Fish · 12-19-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Would you be hesitant with a new coaching staff from top to bottom?

Of course I would..... excited about the possibilities, but very hesitant...

BigChiefFan · 12-19-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM

I think it's a bit wishfull thinking that we could acquire both, but damn I like your idea of getting them

That would be awesome.

Thank you all. I just get the feeling that Stafford will go in the upper mid range of the first round, similiar to Roethlisberger. If that's the case, we might be able to trade up or even trade down a couple of spots and a make the move.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 12-19-2008, 10:22 AM

He'll never make it in the NFL.

eazyb81 · 12-19-2008, 10:36 AM

I hope he goes through all the tests at the combine, especially the speed ones. His strength is incredible, but he shouldn't have so much bulk that it hurts him in beating legit left tackles, instead of Phil Loadholt. He's also had some injury issues and this is his first big season even though he's a redshirt senior.

Basically there are some things I like and some things about him that concern me.

**the Talking Can** · 12-19-2008, 10:40 AM

if we can't get stafford, then DE is the next position of value

i think speed is more important than strength (see: allen), but well, i got nothing on this crop...cross my fingers and pray

talastan · 12-19-2008, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

if we can't get stafford, then DE is the next position of value

i think speed is more important than strength (see: allen), but well, i got nothing on this crop...cross my fingers and pray

I agree if Stafford isn't there then DE. I really believe Orakpo is our target. Johnson from GT is IMO VERY overrated and the only other comparable if you really want speed would probably be Everette Brown IIRC.

Chief77 · 12-19-2008, 10:42 AM

If we dont go the free agent DE route, he should be one of our top candidates in the first. I hope we fill a few holes, just to give us great flexibility in the draft.

**HemiEd** · 12-19-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

How many first day picks do we have to inject into this DL before Gunther finally gets it right?

FYP, and the good news, there is no doubt Gunther will be gone. No doubt.

Mr. Laz · 12-19-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz

what is his nfl equivilant Matthias kiwinuka?

hell no

he's much stronger and plays with more power than Kiwi

that said .... i would be happier if these sentence was reversed

"with all his great accomplishments on the field, his accomplishments in the weight room have been legendary"

this would be much better

"with all his great accomplishments in the weight room, his accomplishments on the field have been legendary"

talastan · 12-19-2008, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

hell no

he's much stronger and plays with more power than Kiwi

that said .... i would be happier if these sentence was reversed

"with all his great accomplishments on the field, his accomplishments in the weight room have been legendary"

this would be much better

"with all his great accomplishments in the weight room, his accomplishments on the field have been legendary"

Yes but you'd think that with his strength training being top notch that we should be able to coach him up to use that power to his advantage.(Provided we actually get a DL coach)

Mr. Laz · 12-19-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by talastan

Yes but you'd think that with his strength training being top notch that we should be able to coach him up to use that power to his advantage.(Provided we actually get a DL coach)

that's the 40 million dollar question

if we can, then we have our own Dwight Freeney/Derrick Thomas/Michael Strahan ...... who are worth virtually any draft pick and can change your entire defense.

if not .......

eazyb81 · 12-19-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz

that's the 40 million dollar question

if we can, then we have our own Dwight Freeney/Derrick Thomas/Michael Strahan ...... who are worth virtually any draft pick and can change your entire defense.

if not .......

I don't think Orakpo has the potential to be a pass rushing terror in the mold of Freneey or DT. He's just not that quick.

On the other hand, I think he could be a greater asset in the running game than those two, and overall I see him as a solid DE that is good in a few areas but not really great at anything. Think Chris Long/Justin Smith/Grant Wistrom.

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