In general, are NFL players more athletic than NBA players?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by lj4mvp

Not even remotely close.

Only rare NFL athletes (Peppers, M. Williams, Calvin Johnson, etc.) are in the same league as most of the NBA.

You gotta be shitting me. NFL combine shows that the majority of corners, linebackers, tight ends, wide receivers, etc are MUCH stronger than their NBA counterparts, faster, and can jump just as high. In addition, they almost always weigh more and they are still freaks of nature. Not even remotely close? Have you ever looked at the NBA combine numbers compared to NFL combine numbers?? In basketball there is alot of acquired skill and length, and obviously athleticism. Which is why the NBA combine isn't really a big deal. NFL combine is a huge deal because guys shoot way up and way down the draft just because they are freak athletes. Kevin Durant, 31 inch vert, can't even bench press 185.

[noa]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

You gotta be shitting me. NFL combine shows that the majority of corners, linebackers, tight ends, wide receivers, etc are MUCH stronger than their NBA counterparts, faster, and can jump just as high. In addition, they almost always weigh more and they are still freaks of nature. Not even remotely close? Have you ever looked at the NBA combine numbers compared to NFL combine numbers?? In basketball there is alot of acquired skill and length, and obviously athleticism. Which is why the NBA combine isn't really a big deal. NFL combine is a huge deal because guys shoot way up and way down the draft just because they are freak athletes. Kevin Durant, 31 inch vert, can't even bench press 185.

Yeah, but the NBA doesn't have people like Damion McIntosh, Damon Huard, or Gary Anderson. I think you can argue that some NFL players are as athletic or more athletic, but you can't say the NFL is more athletic generally.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by noa

Yeah, but the NBA doesn't have people like Damion McIntosh, Damon Huard, or Gary Anderson. I think you can argue that some NFL players are as athletic or more athletic, but you can't say the NFL is more athletic generally.

Definitely. You are correct. The guy in my avatar is an example. Same can be said about those really tall oafs in the NBA that are 7 foot 2 and are slow as molasses. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Definitely. You are correct. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.

A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.

You do realize that Priest Holmes was probably running like a 4.7 in his later years, right?

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Claythan

You do realize that Priest Holmes was probably running like a 4.7 in his later years, right?

I don't really believe that, but maybe.

I timed a 4.83 and that really isn't fast. My best friend was fast..he ran like a 4.45. That's fast. There's a big difference between 4.45 and what I ran. Big difference.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by GonzoRox88

A 4.8 really isn't that fast.

I'm 22, and in high school I ran a 4.8. That isn't quick at all.

Faster than you think. The great majority of people by far and large cannot run a 4.8. Whenever I talk to someone who says they can run a 4.5 or bench 300 or something. I ask them if they want to come with me to my friend who is in strength and agility training. He times 40's for alot of high school and college athletes and develops conditioning programs for them. He said that most high school kids have inflated athletic numbers because they aren't properly timed, don't use correct form on lifts, etc.

Everybody that has came with me has at least ran .2 higher than what they thought they could ran and waaay lower in all compound lifts. People are naturally lie about their athletic talent all the time. I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL

I honestly will extend this offer to anybody who thinks they can run under a 4.65. Although you may just be a great athlete and are not inflating how athletic you are, but I bet 9 out of 10 people that say that run no where near that fast.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Faster than you think. The great majority of people by far and large cannot run a 4.8. Whenever I talk to someone who says they can run a 4.5 or bench 300 or something. I ask them if they want to come with me to my friend who is in strength and agility training. He times 40's for alot of high school and college athletes and develops conditioning programs for them. He said that most high school kids have inflated athletic numbers because they aren't properly timed, don't use correct form on lifts, etc.

Everybody that has came with me has at least ran .2 higher than what they thought they could ran and waaay lower in all compound lifts. People are naturally lie about their athletic talent all the time. I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL

I honestly will extend this offer to anybody who thinks they can run under a 4.65. Although you may just be a great athlete and are not inflating how athletic you are, but I bet 9 out of 10 people that say that run no where near that fast.

Yeah, I could see the first point being true..I don't think my high school football/weight training coach was the most capable and outstanding guy when it came to timing, so I don't have much of an official barometer to gage my personal numbers off from. I could see that.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

I laugh my ass off whenever I'm tailgating at arrowhead and I hear guys go, yeah back before I tore blew my ACL in high school I could run a 4.4 and bench 375. LOL

Oh the "Uncle Rico's" of the world.

p.s.
We coulda won state.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Definitely. You are correct. The guy in my avatar is an example. Same can be said about those really tall oafs in the NBA that are 7 foot 2 and are slow as molasses. I guess what I'm trying to say is the BEST ATHLETES are in the NFL, not the NBA. Which is undeniable. Even look at the quarterbacks, alot of them can run 4.7 to 4.8 40's, which is pretty fast. I know alot of fat asses sitting at their computers will say they ran that in high school, but we all know they didn't. At least Damon McIntosh has going for him is he is probably very strong, and rather agile and quick for his size.

WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by lj4mvp

WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.

come on...everyone?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by lj4mvp

WTF are you even talking about?

Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James, Dwight Howard ... these guys completely blow away everyone in the NFL.

You need to get a clue here.

Get a clue? First of all, these guys aren't going to be as strong as most guys in the NFL. Their vertical leaps are going to be up there with some of the tops in the NFL, yes, but they definitely aren't going to be as fast. You could maybe put LeBron in there as potentially faster than the other guys but to say these 3 guys would completely blow away everyone in the NFL is moronic.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by BWillie007

Get a clue? First of all, these guys aren't going to be as strong as most guys in the NFL. Their vertical leaps are going to be up there with some of the tops in the NFL, yes, but they definitely aren't going to be as fast. You could maybe put LeBron in there as potentially faster than the other guys but to say these 3 guys would completely blow away everyone in the NFL is moronic.

You just don't seem to understand what athleticism actually IS.

LeBron James is quite easily a better athlete than any active player in the NFL. Period.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by lj4mvp

You just don't seem to understand what athleticism actually IS.

LeBron James is quite easily a better athlete than any active player in the NFL. Period.

Apparently...not only is he an amazing athlete......but his entire jock can fit into your mouth.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by lj4mvp

You just don't seem to understand what athleticism actually IS.

LeBron James is quite easily a better athlete than any active player in the NFL. Period.

depends on how you define athlete

both sports use a specific athletic skill set that would leave the player a fish out of water in the other sport.

Lebron james probably wouldn't survive a half season in the NFL

most NFL players are far too muscle bound to keep up at a professional level in the NBA