Cassel or Sanchez?

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Out of fairness to him, he'd been a 'solid producer' with nothing in the way of receivers and pedestrian runningbacks. He carried that offense for years on his own.

True, I wasn't trying to gloss over that... Brady was a great QB without a stellar set of WRs.

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i just think some of the arguments used against cassel are baseless, these guys arent taking into account that brady had the same things happen the year before. does that downgrade brady also? and yeah cassel didnt have as good of #s but would brady have had those same #s his first year?

That's the thing - nobody knows. Look at Tom Brady in that 'offensive system' prior to Moss/Welker. Brady was a consistent winner and nice stats producer. Enter Moss/Welker and he rewrites the record books.

So, Cassel stepped into an offense with two phenom WRs that had helped Brady be one of the top 2-3 QBs in the league for the last half decade.

Yeah, I totally get why some may question Cassel's ability to produce outside of that environment. Could he be Tom Brady part Deaux? Sure... but, I have to see it to believe it.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

True, I wasn't trying to gloss over that... Brady was a great QB without a stellar set of WRs.



That's the thing - nobody knows. Look at Tom Brady in that 'offensive system' prior to Moss/Welker. Brady was a consistent winner and nice stats producer. Enter Moss/Welker and he rewrites the record books.

So, Cassel stepped into an offense with two phenom WRs that had helped Brady be one of the top 2-3 QBs in the league for the last half decade.

Yeah, I totally get why some may question Cassel's ability to produce outside of that environment. Could he be Tom Brady part Deaux? Sure... but, I have to see it to believe it.

was tom brady "that guy" his first year(top 2-3)??? nope why should cassel be expected to step in right off and be the tom brady of 2007???

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

was tom brady "that guy" his first year(top 2-3)??? nope why should cassel be expected to step in right off and be the tom brady of 2007???

Ummm... the first time Brady stepped in at QB (in relief of Bledsoe) was Brady's 2nd NFL season and hmmm, yeah they won the SB.

Is this really the path you want to take?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ummm... the first time Brady stepped in at QB (in relief of Bledsoe) was Brady's 2nd NFL season and hmmm, yeah they won the SB.

Is this really the path you want to take?

they had apretty good d then no???

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ummm... the first time Brady stepped in at QB (in relief of Bledsoe) was Brady's 2nd NFL season and hmmm, yeah they won the SB.

Is this really the path you want to take?

brady had 2843 yards 18 tds 12 ints yep thats top 2-3 qbs that year

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

brady had 2843 yards 18 tds 12 ints yep thats top 2-3 qbs that year

I never said Brady was a top 2-3 guy in his first year. I said he's been in a system that has helped him be a top 2-3 guy for the last half decade.

In his first season, he won a SB... who gives a shit what his QB rank was that year? Cassel had better stats in 2008 compared to Brady in 2001, but what does it matter... Cassel never saw post-season and his reward was being sent to KC.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I never said Brady was a top 2-3 guy in his first year. I said he's been in a system that has helped him be a top 2-3 guy for the last half decade.

In his first season, he won a SB... who gives a shit what his QB rank was that year? Cassel had better stats in 2008 compared to Brady in 2001, but what does it matter... Cassel never saw post-season and his reward was being sent to KC.

yep the only player that has to do with winning a super bowl is the QB