Cassel or Sanchez?

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Moss and Welker hit the scene in 2007 with NE and that is when Brady went berzerko from a stats perspective. Prior to that, Brady has a solid producer with mid/high 3k passing efforts and in the mid/high 20's for TDs.

Out of fairness to him, he'd been a 'solid producer' with nothing in the way of receivers and pedestrian runningbacks. He carried that offense for years on his own. We're talking about a guy proven to be a top player at his position in his own right.

That offense wasn't even close to the same with Cassel last year, although it probably wouldn't ever repeat 2007's numbers even with Brady. That was a 'stars align' kind of year.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

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That offense wasn't even close to the same with Cassel last year, although it probably wouldn't ever repeat 2007's numbers even with Brady. That was a 'stars align' kind of year.

i have been saying this for a month, some people here have annointed the pats as last years champs had brady played and bashed cassel for not doing the exact same thing that brady did before. i have said multiple times brady probably wouldnt have done that last year again, look at peyton manning's career stats, consistent years and one HUGE year then back to the same as before

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i have been saying this for a month, some people here have annointed the pats as last years champs had brady played and bashed cassel for not doing the exact same thing that brady did before. i have said multiple times brady probably wouldnt have done that last year again, look at peyton manning's career stats, consistent years and one HUGE year then back to the same as before

I doubt Brady would have repeated those stats either... but, let's not act as if 1 year proves that Cassel is in the same league as those two guys just yet. If he were, the Pats would have kept him and traded Brady.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

I doubt Brady would have repeated those stats either... but, let's not act as if 1 year proves that Cassel is in the same league as those two guys just yet. If he were, the Pats would have kept him and traded Brady.

i'm not acting like he's in that league... yet, read back i say multiple times people expect him to BE TB and TB wasnt TB his frirst year, he grew into it over multiple years, cassel showed that he has the ability to learn and grow so who knows what his upside is

[Mile High Mania]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i'm not acting like he's in that league... yet, read back i say multiple times people expect him to BE TB and TB wasnt TB his frirst year, he grew into it over multiple years, cassel showed that he has the ability to learn and grow so who knows what his upside is

Again, in Brady's first year of action - they won a SB. Sure, Cassel showed he's worth being a starter, but ...

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

they had apretty good d then no???

In 2008, the NE defense was ranked 6th in points allowed and 6th in yards allowed.

In 2001, the NE defense was ranked 7th in points allowed and 25th in yards allowed.