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Old 02-16-2010, 12:34 PM  
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Cassel Third Highest Paid QB In 2010
Cassel's contract puts more pressure on 2010 season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 16, 2010 1:28 PM ET

Chiefs fans looking to raise their blood pressure should check out today's article in the Kansas City Star regarding Matt Cassel's contract.

We knew Cassel's total contract figures, but the some of the front-loaded numbers in the deal are eye-opening. Cassel's $11.75 million base salary in 2010 ranks third among NFL quarterbacks.

The Chiefs brass says they fully believe in Cassel, and they know better than anyone how awful their offensive line and receivers played last season.

With that said, Cassel is getting paid like a top-five quarterback. We wonder if he must start producing like one to stay in Kansas City past 2010.

Cassel is due a raise to $12.25 million in 2011, including a $7.5 million option bonus. That kind of option is a checkpoint in the contract -- a time to get out. If we had to bet on it today, we'd guess Cassel stays in Kansas City in 2011 and beyond.

But the guy has to show some progress on the field. Another rough season, and the best option for the Chiefs will be to move on.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:36 PM   #121
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I just think it is cool on CP to bash Cassel endlessly and without mercy.

The beauty of it is he could have a good year next year and play extremely well and there is no harm in bashing the shit out of the guy you just go, hey I was wrong. Awesome.

Like I have said I am not just sold on him, he has to play better. I also know we will have him start probably 16 games next year. I am not going to root for the guy to fail.

I don't see the gain in the constant negativity.

Also, who the **** didn't know Cassel was going to be one of the highest paid guys next year? Seriously, Who didn't know that before the article?

The reality is Payton, will break the bank and several other QB's are making more with their bonus and base salaries. Rivers and Eli for example.
I think the point is several saw this coming a year ago, and now that it's playing out exactly like it was called there is still no solid response.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:36 PM   #122
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I just think it is cool on CP to bash Cassel endlessly and without mercy.
Funny, it used to be.

Then we actually traded for him, and 90% of the board did a 180 and decided to ignore everything they said they hated about him, and claim he's the answer.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:37 PM   #123
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No, but 2 years isn't unrealistic, is it? And Campbell's been starting for 4 years now or so. That's irrelevant.
He's going to be 28 when next season starts not 23.
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Funny, it used to be.

Then we actually traded for him, and 90% of the board did a 180 and decided to ignore everything they said they hated about him, and claim he's the answer.
That thread is still one of the funniest in the forum, a handful of posters wanted him most wanted nothing to do with him. Move is made and everyone 180's the few that don't are raked over the coals for being bad fans.
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I think the point is several saw this coming a year ago, and now that it's playing out exactly like it was called there is still no solid response.
Saw what coming? That this team wouldn't be good in 2009? Show me somebody who was arguing that it would be. The consensus was that it would be a tough year for the entire team. Why should the QB be exempt from that?
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He's going to be 28 when next season starts not 23.
With the same starting experience and even less experience in the offensive system. He's still got the same tread on the tires. He's a QB, not a RB. He could realistically play at a high level for 10 more years.
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Saw what coming? That this team wouldn't be good in 2009? Show me somebody who was arguing that it would be. The consensus was that it would be a tough year for the entire team. Why should the QB be exempt from that?
That Cassel was a product of playing on possibly the most explosive offense in the entire league. No where else in the league is he going to get to work with Randy Moss who can take a 2 yard pass 80 or Wes Welker who's the best underneath guy in the business...or the fact that he is that because teams fear Moss.

Even in his NE year, his downfield accuracy numbers are awful, a huge chunk of his stats come on balls completed behind the LOS.

Did you know when scouts judge accuracy they look at passes over 10 yards to judge true accuracy? What does that make Cassel's true accuracy? About 35%?
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It's not a simple yes or no answer.

Can Jamaal Charles rush for 2000 yards? Yes or no.

Can Brandon Flowers get 10 INTs? Yes or no.

There are a lot of variables at play. Obviously he could not do that with the team that we have right now, no. No quarterback could. It's a loaded question.
It is a simple yes or no answer.

You're dodging it for one simple reason.

If you say yes, you look like a ****ing reerun, and if you say no, your argument goes out the ****ing window.

It takes a true franchise QB to win consistently in this league.

Peyton Manning
Roethlisberger
Brady
Eli Manning
Brees
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That's 16 of the last 18 SB winning QB's.

Cassel couldn't sniff those guys jocks. It's not even CLOSE.
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With the same starting experience and even less experience in the offensive system. He's still got the same tread on the tires. He's a QB, not a RB. He could realistically play at a high level for 10 more years.
That's a really bad argument, that's seriously like saying he should be treated like a rookie, WTF did we do, draft Chris Weinke?
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That Cassel was a product of playing on possibly the most explosive offense in the entire league. No where else in the league is he going to get to work with Randy Moss who can take a 2 yard pass 80 or Wes Welker who's the best underneath guy in the business...or the fact that he is that because teams fear Moss.

Even in his NE year, his downfield accuracy numbers are awful, a huge chunk of his stats come on balls completed behind the LOS.

Did you know when scouts judge accuracy they look at passes over 10 yards to judge true accuracy? What does that make Cassel's true accuracy? About 35%?
So if we get a better supporting cast he'll be a better QB?

And he was essentially a rookie in his time with NE. It's not like he was being groomed to take over for Brady. He should be judged as one. Not many rookies come into the NFL with the accuracy of a proven veteran.
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It is a simple yes or no answer.

You're dodging it for one simple reason.

If you say yes, you look like a ****ing reerun, and if you say no, your argument goes out the ****ing window.

It takes a true franchise QB to win consistently in this league.

Peyton Manning
Roethlisberger
Brady
Eli Manning
Brees
Elway
Favre
Aikman
Warner
Young

That's 16 of the last 18 SB winning QB's.

Cassel couldn't sniff those guys jocks. It's not even CLOSE.
How many of them would win a Superbowl with the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs?

edit: 7 of the 10 you listed are sure-fire Hall of Famers, which nobody is arguing Cassel is. It's a loaded question.
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Someone is still dodging the question.
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So if we get a better supporting cast he'll be a better QB?

And he was essentially a rookie in his time with NE. It's not like he was being groomed to take over for Brady. He should be judged as one. Not many rookies come into the NFL with the accuracy of a proven veteran.
If that's how you wanna build the team we'll never win, it's a QB driven league and you're sitting here talking about getting other guys so Cassel can be ok.

It's ****ing ridiculous it's the same spot we've been in for well over 30 years and it's still being subscribed to, frankly it makes me puke.
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How many of them would win a Superbowl with the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs?


No one asked him to win the Superbowl this year, we asked him to not shit his pants, he couldn't even do that.
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How many of them would win a Superbowl with the 2009 Kansas City Chiefs?
Put Cassel on this year's Saints or Colts teams.

You'd be hard pressed to say either even make the playoffs, much less win the Super Bowl.
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