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Old 02-16-2010, 12:34 PM  
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Cassel Third Highest Paid QB In 2010

Cassel's contract puts more pressure on 2010 season
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 16, 2010 1:28 PM ET

Chiefs fans looking to raise their blood pressure should check out today's article in the Kansas City Star regarding Matt Cassel's contract.

We knew Cassel's total contract figures, but the some of the front-loaded numbers in the deal are eye-opening. Cassel's $11.75 million base salary in 2010 ranks third among NFL quarterbacks.

The Chiefs brass says they fully believe in Cassel, and they know better than anyone how awful their offensive line and receivers played last season.

With that said, Cassel is getting paid like a top-five quarterback. We wonder if he must start producing like one to stay in Kansas City past 2010.

Cassel is due a raise to $12.25 million in 2011, including a $7.5 million option bonus. That kind of option is a checkpoint in the contract -- a time to get out. If we had to bet on it today, we'd guess Cassel stays in Kansas City in 2011 and beyond.

But the guy has to show some progress on the field. Another rough season, and the best option for the Chiefs will be to move on.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:25 PM   #106
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So the fact that he was throwing to Randy Moss and Wes Welker, plus the fact that his offensive gameplan called for a lot of screen passes, is negative? Does that speak more to the skill of Cassel or his receiving crew?

Maybe Cassel should have thrown to receivers that weren't as open, or maybe he should have asked them to fall down after 4.9 yards.
This post is chock full of stupid.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:25 PM   #107
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That's just it. The Chiefs organization views Cassel as the franchise QB. Not potential. He is the guy. All of the arguments in the world won't change that. I think that's what people fail to understand.
Yeah, the organization is just glowing with confident praise....

Q: Charlie, what do you think of Cassel?

Weis: He's on the team.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:26 PM   #108
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Oh, we understand it.

We also understand this team will never win a ****ing thing with him as the starting QB.

Do YOU think Matt Cassel is capable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a championship?
He's not Peyton Manning. A Cassel-led team will not be a playoff contender every year merely because of his presence. However, he's already proven that he can take a team to the playoffs. He's done it once. (And please don't argue that he took a 16-0 team and made them 11-5. Tom Brady himself went 10-6 with the team this year.)

To answer your question, he can be successful with the right supporting cast, like 80% of the other QBs in the league.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:26 PM   #109
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Christ, a ****ing COLTS FAN saw this coming, but our dumbass fanbase doesn't understand.

http://www.mycolts.net/blogs/peytons...re-of-yac.aspx
I understand the talent difference and YAC. I also understand the complete ****ing lack of talent our team has JC aside.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:28 PM   #110
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This post is chock full of stupid.
I just don't see how that's a knock on him. All it does is prove that stats can be skewed in any way to make an argument.
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He's not Peyton Manning. A Cassel-led team will not be a playoff contender every year merely because of his presence. However, he's already proven that he can take a team to the playoffs. He's done it once. (And please don't argue that he took a 16-0 team and made them 11-5. Tom Brady himself went 10-6 with the team this year.)

To answer your question, he can be successful with the right supporting cast, like 80% of the other QBs in the league.
Webster's definition of Leader: Successful with the right supporting cast.

Hooray Cassel!
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Except the contract given the rookie will cost more in guaranteed money and will not have a fairly easy out option in a few years. It isn't the same thing.

He plays well or he is gone after 2011. It is the same argument used against me with the Bledsoe deal when NE gave him $100MM contract right after they drafted Brady. How much of the $100MM did Bledsoe see?
Spoken like a true chickenshit that is worried a QB might bust.

You pick Clausen, and if he flames out, you take the risk again. And again, if need be.

Being too chickenshit to take a calculated risk at the most important position on the field is the reason why this franchise is 40+ years without sniffing a championship.

Pocket aces might occasionally get snapped off by some dipshit running you down with 8-3 offsuit, but that doesn't mean you should quit raising every time you get them.

Instead, we keep folding them, and putting all our chips in with marginal hands, hoping to beat the odds and get lucky.
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Webster's definition of Leader: Successful with the right supporting cast.

Hooray Cassel!
Show me a QB that wins in spite of his team and not because of it. And not a once in a generation Hall-of-Fame talent, which Cassel clearly is not.
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He's not Peyton Manning. A Cassel-led team will not be a playoff contender every year merely because of his presence. However, he's already proven that he can take a team to the playoffs. He's done it once. (And please don't argue that he took a 16-0 team and made them 11-5. Tom Brady himself went 10-6 with the team this year.)

To answer your question, he can be successful with the right supporting cast, like 80% of the other QBs in the league.
The Pats didn't make the playoffs last year..so actually he's never proven it.
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He's not Peyton Manning. A Cassel-led team will not be a playoff contender every year merely because of his presence. However, he's already proven that he can take a team to the playoffs. He's done it once. (And please don't argue that he took a 16-0 team and made them 11-5. Tom Brady himself went 10-6 with the team this year.)

To answer your question, he can be successful with the right supporting cast, like 80% of the other QBs in the league.
That didn't answer the question at all.

Let's try again. Simple yes or no answer.

Do YOU think Matt Cassel is capable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a championship?
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Spoken like a true chickenshit that is worried a QB might bust.

You pick Clausen, and if he flames out, you take the risk again. And again, if need be.

Being too chickenshit to take a calculated risk at the most important position on the field is the reason why this franchise is 40+ years without sniffing a championship.

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Instead, we keep folding them, and putting all our chips in with marginal hands, hoping to beat the odds and get lucky.
We call this the typical Chiefs fan base, where people want the 90's back where we just made the playoffs and nothing else.
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Old 02-16-2010, 04:35 PM   #117
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I just think it is cool on CP to bash Cassel endlessly and without mercy.

The beauty of it is he could have a good year next year and play extremely well and there is no harm in bashing the shit out of the guy you just go, hey I was wrong. Awesome.

Like I have said I am not just sold on him, he has to play better. I also know we will have him start probably 16 games next year. I am not going to root for the guy to fail.

I don't see the gain in the constant negativity.

Also, who the **** didn't know Cassel was going to be one of the highest paid guys next year? Seriously, Who didn't know that before the article?

The reality is Payton, will break the bank and several other QB's are making more with their bonus and base salaries. Rivers and Eli for example.
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No, the point is that we have to give him a fair chance before we can honestly assess his performance.
This is just the excuse posse is all this is, by this estimation a QB should get 10 years to prove something.

How dare Buffalo and Washington want to get new QB's, their guys haven't gotten a fair shot either right?
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That didn't answer the question at all.

Let's try again. Simple yes or no answer.

Do YOU think Matt Cassel is capable of putting a team on his shoulders and winning a championship?
It's not a simple yes or no answer.

Can Jamaal Charles rush for 2000 yards? Yes or no.

Can Brandon Flowers get 10 INTs? Yes or no.

There are a lot of variables at play. Obviously he could not do that with the team that we have right now, no. No quarterback could. It's a loaded question.
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This is just the excuse posse is all this is, by this estimation a QB should get 10 years to prove something.

How dare Buffalo and Washington want to get new QB's, their guys haven't gotten a fair shot either right?
No, but 2 years isn't unrealistic, is it? And Campbell's been starting for 4 years now or so. That's irrelevant.
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