Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

[nychief]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Playmaker - somone who can single handedly effect the outcome of a game on a hand ful of plays.

so....some DL playmakers? Sure.
OL...not so much.

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands.... look i get it... Spiller, Clausen or Berry would be more "exciting," but having watched good teams I can say this... playmakers don't make plays without good lines... period. "playmaking" safeties and linebackers don't cause chaos without clogging linemen, running backs and quarterbacks don't make plays without protection. it's not sexy, but it's the game. having watched this team the last four seasons, i can't believe anybody thinks we are in good shape line wise.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by nychief

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands.... look i get it... Spiller, Clausen or Berry would be more "exciting," but having watched good teams I can say this... playmakers don't make plays without good lines... period. "playmaking" safeties and linebackers don't cause chaos without clogging linemen, running backs and quarterbacks don't make plays without protection. it's not sexy, but it's the game. having watched this team the last four seasons, i can't believe anybody thinks we are in good shape line wise.

And has been pointed out ad nauseum, the better teams around the league build their offensive lines with later draft picks.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Brock

And has been pointed out ad nauseum, the better teams around the league build their offensive lines with later draft picks.

What do you think of the Jets? Did they do okay last year? Do you think that they have a good team with Super Bowl potential?

And as has been pointed out damn near ad nausem, there are actually five positions on the offensive line. They all don't need to be first round picks. In the heyday of the Chief's offensive explosion of the early 2000's, they only had two first round draft picks on the offensive line. How many do we currently have? And of those current first round picks on the Chiefs offensive line, how many were picked by Herm? (Because, Brock, if you can use that excuse for the defensive or "playmaking" positions, it certainly can apply to Herm/Carl taking a college guard in the first round and projecting him to LT in the pros also as an excuse.)

However, to remind you, we have TWO first round picks on our defensive line. We have TWO first round picks at the linebacker position.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

However, to remind you, we have TWO first round picks on our defensive line. We have TWO first round picks at the linebacker position.

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[Dayze]

Originally Posted by nychief

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands.... look i get it... Spiller, Clausen or Berry would be more "exciting," but having watched good teams I can say this... playmakers don't make plays without good lines... period. "playmaking" safeties and linebackers don't cause chaos without clogging linemen, running backs and quarterbacks don't make plays without protection. it's not sexy, but it's the game. having watched this team the last four seasons, i can't believe anybody thinks we are in good shape line wise.

I don't think we're in good shape. but that doesn't mean I want to spend a top 5 pick on OL. We definitely need OL/DL, but not that hight IMO.

Indy & New Orelans had 1 offensive lineman drafted in the 1st if I recall. combined.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by nychief

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands....

Offensive lineman don't really shine when they play Madden. Imagine the possibilities of what Berry's stats might be as a rookie in Madden '11!!!! He'll be the Michael Vick of the defense and he might really give the Madden Chiefs a legit chance to do big things!

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by nychief

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands.... look i get it... Spiller, Clausen or Berry would be more "exciting," but having watched good teams I can say this... playmakers don't make plays without good lines... period. "playmaking" safeties and linebackers don't cause chaos without clogging linemen, running backs and quarterbacks don't make plays without protection. it's not sexy, but it's the game. having watched this team the last four seasons, i can't believe anybody thinks we are in good shape line wise.

Thank you. We won 6 games in 2 years. That's a team that needs help from the QB to the waterboy. Just pick the best player available and worry about filling in the holes next year.