Peter King: The Chiefs will never take a safety that high

[dirk digler]

I hope that ****nut is wrong but I am sure I will be disappointed if Berry is there and they pass unless they decide to draft Clausen.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/

I noticed last night SI's Peter King was tweeting up a storm at his Twitter account about all things football for a few hours. One very interesting observation came out of him that I think would surprise a lot of us here.
Someone suggested the Chiefs trade with the Dolphins, who are in need of a playmaking safety. King, who agreed with a Miami/Kansas City trade scenario, had this to say:

"And KC would never take [safety] that high."

Now, King's one of the best in the business when it comes to sports reporting, especially the NFL and that sounds like a pretty definitive statement.

With that said, I see his logic. Scott Pioli has always struck me as a guy who's more likely to build from the inside out meaning the focus is on the offensive and defensive lines.

Just something to keep in mind as we inch toward April.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by nychief

I assume it means anybody with a reasonable chance to touching the ball? Obviously nobody considers any type of lineman a playmaker...

Playmaker - somone who can single handedly effect the outcome of a game on a hand ful of plays.

so....some DL playmakers? Sure.
OL...not so much.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

So four straight high 1st round picks on the "trenches". Got my Bulaga jersey ready to go, can't hardly control my excitement.

THIS IS AWESOME

That's how you build a winnar/True Fans

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Yeah, no one has provided a cogent definition of the term.

Playmaker = skill position player. Someone who creates TD's, scores TD's or creates turnovers or forces them.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Missed that.

I clearly Piolied up.

Eh, it was in another thread a few weeks back.

[Dayze]

the good news is we pick at #5.

and, as we all know, the number '5' is in the number '53'.

we're 1/2 way there.

[Dayze]

actually...Jackson was at #3

we should be there by now!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Here's the funny thing:

Even if Pioli makes the dumbest ****ing pick possible (LT), we're still going to win 7 games next year just based on the schedule alone.

People will begin to sing his praises when the reality is that he will have ****ed this franchise for 5+ years with his first two draft picks.

[Pants]

Can we please wait till next year to draft a QB, though? Please?

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dayze

the thread title should read "The Chiefs Will Never Draft a Playmaker"

I can't recall the last playmaker the Chiefs drafted (sorry true fans, I don't consider TG a playmaker. Or the TE position in general)

Dwayne Bowe?

Brandon Flowers?

Jamaal Charles?

Derrick Johnson?

Even Dorsey, while playing at a DT position, was supposed to be a Warren Sapp level disruptor.

What's your definition of "playmaker" if the aforementioned guys aren't?

[Micjones]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Dwayne Bowe?

Brandon Flowers?

Jamaal Charles?

Derrick Johnson?

Even Dorsey, while playing at a DT position, was supposed to be a Warren Sapp level disruptor.

What's your definition of "playmaker" if the aforementioned guys aren't?

Glad somebody said it.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Dayze

the good news is we pick at #5.

and, as we all know, the number '5' is in the number '53'.

we're 1/2 way there.

We picked #3 last year. We are there.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Dwayne Bowe?

Brandon Flowers?

Jamaal Charles?

Derrick Johnson?

Even Dorsey, while playing at a DT position, was supposed to be a Warren Sapp level disruptor.

What's your definition of "playmaker" if the aforementioned guys aren't?

Mostly drafted by Herm Edwards.

[Dayze]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Dwayne Bowe?

Brandon Flowers?

Jamaal Charles?

Derrick Johnson?

Even Dorsey, while playing at a DT position, was supposed to be a Warren Sapp level disruptor.

What's your definition of "playmaker" if the aforementioned guys aren't?

I would say Charles and Flowers might be. FLowers, certainly, is looking like he can.

The others, I would say no. But, don't get me wong - just because i don't think they're playmakers doesn't mean I don't think they're good players.
The only person listed above that I think could go to a playoff caliber team and still play at a exceptional level is probably Flowers. Perhaps Dorsey in the right scheme.

Bowe, Johnson,....would be role players on most other teams.

Charles...I'm not sure yet. I like him; he has the potential to have the 'boom' factor.

[nychief]

Originally Posted by Dayze

Playmaker - somone who can single handedly effect the outcome of a game on a hand ful of plays.

so....some DL playmakers? Sure.
OL...not so much.

that is a myopic view of the game and the especially line play... feels to me that half the people bitching about drafting lineman on this board do so because they are ignorant, they just clamor to see guys with the ball in their hands.... look i get it... Spiller, Clausen or Berry would be more "exciting," but having watched good teams I can say this... playmakers don't make plays without good lines... period. "playmaking" safeties and linebackers don't cause chaos without clogging linemen, running backs and quarterbacks don't make plays without protection. it's not sexy, but it's the game. having watched this team the last four seasons, i can't believe anybody thinks we are in good shape line wise.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Here's the funny thing:

Even if Pioli makes the dumbest ****ing pick possible (LT), we're still going to win 7 games next year just based on the schedule alone.

People will begin to sing his praises when the reality is that he will have ****ed this franchise for 5+ years with his first two draft picks.

Yes. I fear this greatly. We'll win just enough that fans will pile back on the wagon and cling to hope. Cassel will likely only allow us to be mediocre at best, but it will be enough to garner idiot fan support. Experienced fans who have dealt with this shit for years will be frustrated and appear to be hateful and bitter to the otherwise encouraged Truefans™. They'll hang on to Cassel as long as possible, because next year is all we'll need to get the missing pieces to get us over the top. Only next year we'll need another imaginary piece of the puzzle, and the cycle will start over. This will continue on and on. And there goes another decade of shit.