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Old 04-05-2010, 11:04 AM  
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Who should we draft 1st?
who should it be?
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:18 PM   #196
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I fault guys for not winning jobs they are suppose to win, that tells me about them as people.

This would be like if after Chase Daniel had gone pro for Missouri, Blaine Gabbert got beat out by the guy that was behind him. The other thing that really really speaks to Cassel as a player is that once he was beaten out by a player who was only a RS Sophomore at the time knowing he'd never play, he decided to play TE instead of transferring to a school where he'd get to play...

There's a lot of very bad signs in that.
Priest Holmes doesn't agree with that argument
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:19 PM   #197
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About the same as Cassel is doing here, that alone should tell you something.

That QB that everyone makes fun of, beat out the guy that is suppose to be our franchise, ponder that.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:19 PM   #198
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Priest Holmes doesn't agree with that argument
Priest Holmes was a RB that had some injury problems...plus multiple RB's play, no one plays musical QB's.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:20 PM   #199
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About the same as Cassel is doing here, that alone should tell you something.

That QB that everyone makes fun of, beat out the guy that is suppose to be our franchise, ponder that.
And Leinart was a Heisman trophy winner and a first round pick and might not ever start a whole season for his team. Are you starting to see how this comes around full circle?
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I'm not saying that I like Cassel. But I will give him one more season before I make my mind up. I think he took more chances towards the end of the season because he didn't care because there wasn't anything to lose. Same with Haley.

I'm not saying that he played great, in fact, I think he played poorly.

Actually, he pretty much sucked.

now I'm questioning myself if I should give him another season or not....

damnit
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:21 PM   #201
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Right now that deal sucks, we got a shitty QB, a broke dick LB and took a shitty end with a top 3 pick.

Hold me back.
really the pick at 3 wasnt part of the trade. we could have taken anyone there. we werent stuck with tj. no matter what you say
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:21 PM   #202
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So you want to use 3 straight top 5 picks on the same position, seriously. Think about how stupid that is.
Im all about bettering the team in any possible way even if it means taking Suh and trading Dorsey. Think about how sh*tty our DL is, and how Dorsey has not lived up to expectations and also that he is not a good fit in what the team is asking him to do on defense.

What counts is improvement. Thats the way you gotta look at it.

*For example, IF lets say Richard Seymour in his prime was available would you pass on him or take him? I guarantee you there will be many around the league that would want him. Yeah even though he is a 5 tech DE, but a damn good one, and a guy that will make a difference on your team and defense.
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Leinart is more accurate than Cassel is he just doesn't have any kind of arm strength, if Arizona uses a more WCO based passing attack he can be a solid game manager type of QB for them.
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Old 04-05-2010, 06:23 PM   #204
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I'm not saying that I like Cassel. But I will give him one more season before I make my mind up. I think he took more chances towards the end of the season because he didn't care because there wasn't anything to lose. Same with Haley.

I'm not saying that he played great, in fact, I think he played poorly.

Actually, he pretty much sucked.

now I'm questioning myself if I should give him another season or not....

damnit
imo taking Clausen doesn't mean Cassel is done ... it just means we finally have a legit QBotF. Cassel will still have every chance to hold off the youngster for as long as he can.

the way it should be imo
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Leinart is more accurate than Cassel is he just doesn't have any kind of arm strength, if Arizona uses a more WCO based passing attack he can be a solid game manager type of QB for them.
No better than Cassel, and Arizona used an early first round pick on Leinart. Goes to show that even the most sure picks bust just as often. I doubt anyone here wants to draft a game manager at #5.
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imo taking Clausen doesn't mean Cassel is done ... it just means we finally have a legit QBotF. Cassel will still have every chance to hold off the youngster for as long as he can.

the way it should be imo
And we can see how much money we can lock into the QB position.
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Leinart is more accurate than Cassel is he just doesn't have any kind of arm strength, if Arizona uses a more WCO based passing attack he can be a solid game manager type of QB for them.
didn't you just say that a guy not winning the job he supposed to win means something?

that's leinart in a nutshell
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so chow wanted him but the pats beat him to it huh?
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I'm not saying that I like Cassel. But I will give him one more season before I make my mind up. I think he took more chances towards the end of the season because he didn't care because there wasn't anything to lose. Same with Haley.

I'm not saying that he played great, in fact, I think he played poorly.

Actually, he pretty much sucked.

now I'm questioning myself if I should give him another season or not....

damnit
The problem with this is,the Chiefs schedule isn't that difficult next year, they go out and win 6 games, we aren't getting a QB and now we're stuck.

Which is why this idea that we can easily move on from Cassel is is far fetched unless we're of the belief that the Chiefs are so bad we're going to continue to pick top 5 every year.
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Im all about bettering the team in any possible way even if it means taking Suh and trading Dorsey. Think about how sh*tty our DL is, and how Dorsey has not lived up to expectations and also that he is not a good fit in what the team is asking him to do on defense.What counts is improvement. Thats the way you gotta look at it.

*For example, IF lets say Richard Seymour in his prime was available would you pass on him or take him? I guarantee you there will be many around the league that would want him. Yeah even though he is a 5 tech DE, but a damn good one, and a guy that will make a difference on your team and defense.
Dorsey improved immensely in his 2nd season and fit or no fit if he continues to develop (with Crennel on board highly likely) KC would be foolish to trade him.
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