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Old 09-30-2010, 05:29 PM   #1
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The issue I have with you and the other members of the pitchfork-wielding mob isn't so much whether this is a violation of law as it is with the appropriate level of punishment.
Exactly. No way in hell a judge or jury effectively ends these two kid's lives for a prank gone wrong. No way in hell.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:52 PM   #2
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Exactly. No way in hell a judge or jury effectively ends these two kid's lives for a prank gone wrong. No way in hell.
Erin Andrews' peephole guy got sentenced to 2.5 years in prison. How are these circumstances different and why should these two receive a lower sentence?
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:56 PM   #3
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Erin Andrews' peephole guy got sentenced to 2.5 years in prison. How are these circumstances different and why should these two receive a lower sentence?
IMHO there is a discernible difference between a grown man who stalks a woman across several states to make multiple videos of her over a period of time and two young college kids who pulled a prank that ended badly.
If the kid hadn't killed himself I highly doubt anyone would be so up in arms.
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Old 09-30-2010, 05:59 PM   #4
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IMHO there is a discernible difference between a grown man who stalks a woman across several states to make multiple videos of her over a period of time and two young college kids who pulled a prank that ended badly.
If the kid hadn't killed himself I highly doubt anyone would be so up in arms.
Prank is a bad word. It's normally used way more lightly than what it was here..

This is far more than a prank. A prank isn't telling someone they have privacy, videotaping them having sex, then spreading it around making fun of them.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:07 PM   #5
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Prank is a bad word. It's normally used way more lightly than what it was here..

This is far more than a prank. A prank isn't telling someone they have privacy, videotaping them having sex, then spreading it around making fun of them.
It's an assault.

Bouillon cubes in the shower head is a prank. Taping the clicker on the phone down so you can't answer it is a prank.

This wasn't. But calling it a prank goes much better with the 'poor immature college kid' narrative.

These were malicious teens that assaulted a weakling. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:01 PM   #6
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IMHO there is a discernible difference between a grown man who stalks a woman across several states to make multiple videos of her over a period of time and two young college kids who pulled a prank that ended badly.
If the kid hadn't killed himself I highly doubt anyone would be so up in arms.
Uh, if my roommate unknowingly taped me having sex, especially after I told him not to, I'd be ****ing pissed and absolutely up in arms.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:59 PM   #7
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Uh, if my roommate unknowingly taped me having sex, especially after I told him not to, I'd be ****ing pissed and absolutely up in arms.
yes, thats a go to frikking jail offense. In the privacy of our own rooms/houses there is an expectation of privacy/ Thats why the peephole dude got years in jail.

Violations of privacy teamed with bullying = jail time.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:10 PM   #8
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Uh, if my roommate unknowingly taped me having sex, especially after I told him not to, I'd be ****ing pissed and absolutely up in arms.
I was waiting for someone to say this. Finally.

A "prank gone wrong", twice. Blatant, douchebag bullying. Your roommate texts and asks for privacy, and your first response is to set up a webcam and tweet about it to your friends? You can **** off. That's not a "prank gone wrong", that's blatant douchebaggery.
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Old 09-30-2010, 08:24 PM   #9
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Old 09-30-2010, 09:49 PM   #10
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Uh, if my roommate unknowingly taped me having sex, especially after I told him not to, I'd be ****ing pissed and absolutely up in arms.
My roommate in college taped himself screwing some skank in college w/ the background song "The Animal I've Become" by Breaking Benjamin. He put the camera in a place so you couldn't see his dong thankfully and he posted it to his website. I always thought it was a dumb thing to do and have no idea how someone would be okay with the world seeing them have sex, but nothing ever happened out of it. Everybody including the girls he knew thought it was funny.

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Old 09-30-2010, 11:15 PM   #11
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My roommate in college taped himself screwing some skank in college w/ the background song "The Animal I've Become" by Breaking Benjamin. He put the camera in a place so you couldn't see his dong thankfully and he posted it to his website. I always thought it was a dumb thing to do and have no idea how someone would be okay with the world seeing them have sex, but nothing ever happened out of it. Everybody including the girls he knew thought it was funny.
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Old 10-01-2010, 08:56 AM   #12
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My roommate in college taped himself screwing some skank in college w/ the background song "The Animal I've Become" by Breaking Benjamin. He put the camera in a place so you couldn't see his dong thankfully and he posted it to his website. I always thought it was a dumb thing to do and have no idea how someone would be okay with the world seeing them have sex, but nothing ever happened out of it. Everybody including the girls he knew thought it was funny.
What the hell does this have to do with anything? Cool story, brah?
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Erin Andrews' peephole guy got sentenced to 2.5 years in prison. How are these circumstances different and why should these two receive a lower sentence?
Exactly. Except I think it's state laws that are applicable here, and each has it's own for these cases.

That said, it's textbook based on the law given. Still don't see how this is much of an argument. I will disagree on DJ with fullest extent.. but as I said, they need at LEAST a few months. You want to scare them, but 5 years might just make them bitter and make them hard criminals. Not sure that's what's needed here.

Few months with lots of community service and classes. Something that would punish the hell out of them, but not turn them into something worse. The idea behind prison I think is to rehabilitate people into being functioning, decent members of society.. not to make them worse than they are.
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:09 PM   #14
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Erin Andrews' peephole guy got sentenced to 2.5 years in prison. How are these circumstances different and why should these two receive a lower sentence?
And I believe the peephole guy got a federal sentence so there's no possibility of parole.

Give the kid a 5 year prison sentence in a state court and he'll be out on parole within 18 months.
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