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Old 03-08-2011, 11:22 PM   #1
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and even a loan if you need money for tickets to get home, etc.
The military pays for transportation to the Soldier's home of record, no loans, it's covered.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:25 PM   #2
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The military pays for transportation to the Soldier's home of record, no loans, it's covered.
In the Air Force while I was in, it was loans if stationed domestically.

I can see the military footing the bill if you are in a war zone, but it was loans if you weren't deployed and in combat.

I realize Jenson was specifically asking about deployments, so I'm sure you are correct.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:37 AM   #3
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Went home on a Red Cross message from a sandbox far away. While mission does come first. Every commander will try their hardest to get the soldier out of there. I recieved notification I may have a RC message was coming one morning(don't know how that works but they knew it was coming), the message arrived later that afternoon, packed my gear and shipped out the next day. Was driven to a UN base and was processed through by both G2 and G4 for a civilian flight later that night. About 36hrs later after my flight left I was sleeping on something soft back home. Took about 3-4 days total to get the message and get back home. And yes, since I was deployed at the time I didn't have any out of pocket expenses.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:07 AM   #4
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Went home on a Red Cross message from a sandbox far away. While mission does come first. Every commander will try their hardest to get the soldier out of there. I recieved notification I may have a RC message was coming one morning(don't know how that works but they knew it was coming), the message arrived later that afternoon, packed my gear and shipped out the next day. Was driven to a UN base and was processed through by both G2 and G4 for a civilian flight later that night. About 36hrs later after my flight left I was sleeping on something soft back home. Took about 3-4 days total to get the message and get back home. And yes, since I was deployed at the time I didn't have any out of pocket expenses.

This pretty much summarizes it for deployments. If it's a close relative - parent (even in-laws), spouse or children - there's not a question that the troop will get sent home. They normally get priority at the transportation terminals as well. Although it's still a matter of lift availability.

I sent one of my guys back home from Iraq after his grandmother died. You don't want that weighing on someone under that sort of pressure.

My father-in-law died while I was stationed in Germany, and I got sent back no charge.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:19 AM   #5
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This pretty much summarizes it for deployments. If it's a close relative - parent (even in-laws), spouse or children - there's not a question that the troop will get sent home. They normally get priority at the transportation terminals as well. Although it's still a matter of lift availability.

I sent one of my guys back home from Iraq after his grandmother died. You don't want that weighing on someone under that sort of pressure.

My father-in-law died while I was stationed in Germany, and I got sent back no charge.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:48 AM   #6
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I sent one of my guys back home from Iraq after his grandmother died. You don't want that weighing on someone under that sort of pressure.
That's interesting to me. So did he ask for that, or did you volunteer that opportunity after the Red Cross message was received?
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:05 AM   #7
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That's interesting to me. So did he ask for that, or did you volunteer that opportunity after the Red Cross message was received?
He wanted to go and asked. But there wasn't a question in my mind that he should go back home, and there really wasn't much of a discussion as to whether we would let him. It was more a matter of getting it right administratively with the personnel folks.
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:08 AM   #8
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He wanted to go and asked. But there wasn't a question in my mind that he should go back home, and there really wasn't much of a discussion as to whether we would let him. It was more a matter of getting it right administratively with the personnel folks.
How long into the tour was this, if you remember?
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This pretty much summarizes it for deployments. If it's a close relative - parent (even in-laws), spouse or children - there's not a question that the troop will get sent home. They normally get priority at the transportation terminals as well. Although it's still a matter of lift availability.

I sent one of my guys back home from Iraq after his grandmother died. You don't want that weighing on someone under that sort of pressure.

My father-in-law died while I was stationed in Germany, and I got sent back no charge.
My son was not allowed to return from his tour to attend his grandmothers funeral~
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:04 AM   #10
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My son was not allowed to return from his tour to attend his grandmothers funeral~
Ultimately, it does come down to a decision by the leadership. Some don't see it the way we did.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:14 AM   #11
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My son was not allowed to return from his tour to attend his grandmothers funeral~
They call it Local Parentus. If a member of your immediate family dies you are allowed emergency leave. Immediate family includes mother, father, brother, sister, spouse, and children. If a grandparent, aunt, or uncle dies it is only considered local parentus if you were raised by, or lived with that person for a specified length of time during childhood.

And if I weren't so damn lazy I would have read trndobrd's post saying pretty much the same damn thing before I typed this.
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They call it Local Parentus. If a member of your immediate family dies you are allowed emergency leave. Immediate family includes mother, father, brother, sister, spouse, and children. If a grandparent, aunt, or uncle dies it is only considered local parentus if you were raised by, or lived with that person for a specified length of time during childhood.

And if I weren't so damn lazy I would have read trndobrd's post saying pretty much the same damn thing before I typed this.
Our guy's grandmother didn't fall into that category, but we were able to get him out anyway. As Phobia pointed out, sometimes the situation doesn't allow commands to be that flexible.
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They call it Local Parentus. If a member of your immediate family dies you are allowed emergency leave. Immediate family includes mother, father, brother, sister, spouse, and children. If a grandparent, aunt, or uncle dies it is only considered local parentus if you were raised by, or lived with that person for a specified length of time during childhood.

And if I weren't so damn lazy I would have read trndobrd's post saying pretty much the same damn thing before I typed this.
They were very close and he was pretty broke about it. When he was a child we lived at my parents house for awhile. He was less than half way through a 15 month stint on his first tour. I know nothing of the details other than his disappointment of not being able to attend~
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