***OFFICIAL Walterfootball.com Mock Draft Thread***

[The Franchise]

He updates his mock draft like once a week.....so I'll just post them when I see them.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2011.php

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#23 - Kansas City Chiefs: Jonathan Baldwin, WR, Pittsburgh

A list of players who have lined up across from Dwayne Bowe this season: Chris Chambers, Terrance Copper and Verran Tucker. Bleh.

Jonathan Baldwin has struggled this year amid quarterbacking issues, but he's still a physical freak at 6-5, 230.

#54 - Kansas City Chiefs: Jabaal Sheard, DE/OLB, Pittsburgh

The Chiefs have only one reliable pass-rusher. Adding a solid complement across from Tamba Hali would take Kansas City's defense to the next level.

#87 - Kansas City Chiefs: Christian Ballard, DE/DT, Iowa

The Chiefs could use some help up front; they've struggled against the run lately after a great start to the season in that department.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Yep Detroit is the one I was thinking. Also they could still get a left tackle right before Indy, Philly and Chicago.

For some reason, all the smoke is that the Lions want a corner or DE.

They'd still get one.

Want to throw salt in their wound? Offer the 21, 3rd rounder and the swap of 5ths.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Coogs

This is also a favorite scenario with me. Trading up for Jones.

My two favorite scenarios right now...

The trade down one that is "on the table for some team" for a 2nd this year and a 1st next year.

Trade up for Jones.

The stand pat option has me leaning towards Pouncey at 21.

No how, no way do I want Pouncey at 21.

Even if we cut Waters, we still have Asamoah and Lilja as our starting guards, and that's fine by me.

I don't think Pouncey is a center at all in the NFL.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No how, no way do I want Pouncey at 21.

Even if we cut Waters, we still have Asamoah and Lilja as our starting guards, and that's fine by me.

I don't think Pouncey is a center at all in the NFL.

I do think he can play center. I'm just not all that enamored with anyone at 21... unless we really pull one out of the hat and go QB ourselves.

[Quesadilla Joe]

I guess Schefter was on 850 KOA in Denver and said that he is 80% sure that Denver will be drafting Von Miller.

[doomy3]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I guess Schefter was on 850 KOA in Denver and said that he is 80% sure that Denver will be drafting Von Miller.

That's a twist.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I guess Schefter was on 850 KOA in Denver and said that he is 80% sure that Denver will be drafting Von Miller.

Doesn't seem like a good fit.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Doesn't seem like a good fit.

Remember we brought in Dennis Allen from the Saints and that defense blitzed the living shit out of teams. Von Miller would be an excellent blitzer and can put his hand in the dirt on 3rd down. Plus he is more than athletic enough to be an OLB in a 4-3.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Remember we brought in Dennis Allen from the Saints and that defense blitzed the living shit out of teams. Von Miller would be an excellent blitzer and can put his hand in the dirt on 3rd down. Plus he is more than athletic enough to be an OLB in a 4-3.

And it was Gregg Williams that blitzed people. I love how everyone assumes that just because he was under a coordinator that blitzed that he would do the same automatically.

Miller is a horrible fit for a 4-3. He's a true 3-4 OLB. Makes no ****ing sense.

[Chiefs=Champions]

I would love that pick for Denver

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

No how, no way do I want Pouncey at 21.

Even if we cut Waters, we still have Asamoah and Lilja as our starting guards, and that's fine by me.

I don't think Pouncey is a center at all in the NFL.

Agreed. He is not his brother
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[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

And it was Gregg Williams that blitzed people. I love how everyone assumes that just because he was under a coordinator that blitzed that he would do the same automatically.

Miller is a horrible fit for a 4-3. He's a true 3-4 OLB. Makes no ****ing sense.

Coaching trees are full of guys who copy what they learned from other guys.

The Bill Walsh tree all ran the West Coast offense from Holmgren, to Gruden, to Shanny, to Kubiak.

Dungy has guys like Lovie Smith, Jim Caldwell, and Leslie Frazier running the Tampa 2.

Parcells has guys like Belicheat, Crennel, and Mangini running the 3-4....

Dennis Allen will bring what he knows and that is balls to the wall pressure and Von Miller is good at that.

Miller is a freak of nature athletically and is the perfect size to be a 4-3 OLB. He is more than athletic enough to play WILL and big enough to play SAM. He will have plenty of opportunites to get after the QB with a defensive mastermind like John Fox and an aggressive up and comer like Dennis Allen.

[BossChief]

If Denver drafts miller, they will have the 32nd ranked rush defense next year.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

If Denver drafts miller, they will have the 32nd ranked rush defense next year.

We have had the worst rush defense in the NFL for the past 4 or 5 years. It's going to take more than 1 draft pick to fix the rush defense. I do think having a defensive minded HC will help the defense though.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Coaching trees are full of guys who copy what they learned from other guys.

The Bill Walsh tree all ran the West Coast offense from Holmgren, to Gruden, to Shanny, to Kubiak.

Dungy has guys like Lovie Smith, Jim Caldwell, and Leslie Frazier running the Tampa 2.

Parcells has guys like Belicheat, Crennel, and Mangini running the 3-4....

Dennis Smith will bring what he knows and that is balls to the wall pressure and Von Miller is good at that.

Miller is a freak of nature athletically and is the perfect size to be a 4-3 OLB. He is more than athletic enough to play WILL and big enough to play SAM. He will have plenty of opportunites to get after the QB with a defensive mastermind like John Fox and an aggressive up and comer like Dennis Allen.

You know what your post said?

Jack and shit.

He's not a great fit for an OLB in a 4-3. You can keep spinning that anyway you want, but he's not.

John Fox defensive mastermind? Since ****ing when?

You like to throw out these superlatives for your coaches that holds little water. He's no ****ing mastermind. He was a good coordinator about 10 years ago when he had actual talent to work with.

Putting square pegs in round holes doesn't work.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Bad Guy is just upset that Denver could wind up with the next Derrick Thomas.