Judgement Day is coming

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

So how about this hypothetical situation?

A baby is born to a jungle tribe that has no religion and no contact with outsiders. This baby grows to be the nicest, most kindhearted individual possible. This person has done no wrong or broken any moral rule of the tribe. Basically lead the most wholesome life possible, but devoid of religion.

Is this person denied entrance to heaven and forced to endure the rapture simply because of the geographical limitations of their own birthplace? If so, how can you deem that as fair judgment?

They're not. According to the bible, they cannot deny Jesus if they don't know he exists. You go to hell for denying the love of our lord.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

They're not. According to the bible, they cannot deny Jesus if they don't know he exists. You go to hell for denying the love of our lord.

So they would go to heaven? With all those people they don't know or understand?

Ignorance really is bliss?

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by KC Fish

So they would go to heaven? With all those people they don't know or understand?

Ignorance really is bliss?

Yep. Pretty ****ed eh?

I asked my HS teacher, a philosophy major, his view on God/Religion. His answer has pretty much stuck with me my entire life now.

His Answer: The biggest issue he has with it is that religion does not reward good behavior and morality. The whole schtick with the bible is to teach good morals and to love your neighbor and the lord. Those are the teachings of Jesus Christ.

But loving the lord trumps all. You can be a person of outstanding Charector. You can be a person who never "sins". You never told a lie, committed adultry or murder. You're the model human being.

But if you don't follow/love the Christian God, none of that matters. The bible teaches you to be a good person. You can be the best person in the world. But if you don't love their god, you're going to hell.

So, ima be the best person I can be. But i'm not going to sit here and throw money at a church, or stress myself to follow every teaching to a "T". I'm not going to sit here and study the bible and put my faith in man. If god does exist, he'll know that i was a person of high morality. If he lets me in, great. If not, at least I'll know I lived a good life.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

If not, at least I'll know I lived a good life.

Yes, and SATAN will remind you of that every time he pokes your ass with his infinitely hot poker thingy.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yep. Pretty ****ed eh?

I asked my HS teacher, a philosophy major, his view on God/Religion. His answer has pretty much stuck with me my entire life now.

His Answer: The biggest issue he has with it is that religion does not reward good behavior and morality. The whole schtick with the bible is to teach good morals and to love your neighbor and the lord. Those are the teachings of Jesus Christ.

But loving the lord trumps all. You can be a person of outstanding Charector. You can be a person who never "sins". You never told a lie, committed adultry or murder. You're the model human being.

But if you don't follow/love the Christian God, none of that matters. The bible teaches you to be a good person. You can be the best person in the world. But if you don't love their god, you're going to hell.

So, ima be the best person I can be. But i'm not going to sit here and throw money at a church, or stress myself to follow every teaching to a "T". I'm not going to sit here and study the bible and put my faith in man. If god does exist, he'll know that i was a person of high morality. If he lets me in, great. If not, at least I'll know I lived a good life.

I'm what most would call a Christian, and I don't think you would burn in hell for leading a good life.
The overbearing nature of the general message that is taught by organized religion drives away so many people. I haven't been to church, a whole lot, or in along time, but I can tell you that there are some that are not filled with extremists.

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by beach tribe

I'm what most would call a Christian, and I don't think you would burn in hell for leading a good life.
The overbearing nature of the general message that is taught by organized religion drives away so many people. I haven't been to church, a whole lot, or in along time, but I can tell you that there are some that are not filled with extremists.

It's in the bible. It's pretty cut and dry. You don't love god, you're not going to heaven. No way around it.

Is it TRULY suppose to be that way or is the Church trying to make you believe in THEIR God so you can go to THEIR church? I don't know. But those are the rules.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

It's in the bible. It's pretty cut and dry. You don't love god, you're not going to heaven. No way around it.

Is it TRULY suppose to be that way or is the Church trying to make you believe in THEIR God so you can go to THEIR church? I don't know. But those are the rules.

The Vatican ain't pimped the **** out like the Russian dude's house in the direct TV commercial, because they told people that they get close to God without them.

[suds79]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

So, ima be the best person I can be. But i'm not going to sit here and throw money at a church, or stress myself to follow every teaching to a "T". I'm not going to sit here and study the bible and put my faith in man. If god does exist, he'll know that i was a person of high morality. If he lets me in, great. If not, at least I'll know I lived a good life.

I don't think someone has to throw money at a church or worry about following every teaching to a T to show they love God.

Particularly the following every teaching to a T part. If you're referring to basically obeying the commandments, remember that none of us do. We're all sinners. That's the whole point. The commandments are not there to be something we beat ourselves up over because we fail. They're there to help us realize we need Jesus to save us.