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Old 07-21-2011, 09:37 PM   #1
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ANY plan that calls for Flowers to be on the bench during base formations is a bad one.
You mean Carr right? That's what he's suggesting.
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Old 07-21-2011, 10:30 PM   #2
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You mean Carr right? That's what he's suggesting.
Haha yeah.

Really though, either one on the sidelines in base formations would be ****ed.

I mean, if we could get a second and change for Carr and sign Asamoghua to a FA deal, I'd be ok with that because it would be an upgrade and cones with a profited draft pick or two....bit to just sign him outright would be a waste of assets.
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Old 07-23-2011, 08:22 AM   #3
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Haha yeah.

Really though, either one on the sidelines in base formations would be ****ed.

I mean, if we could get a second and change for Carr and sign Asamoghua to a FA deal, I'd be ok with that because it would be an upgrade and cones with a profited draft pick or two....bit to just sign him outright would be a waste of assets.
Carr hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Neither he, nor Flowers, will not likely ever be considered the top 2 CBs in the league, but both very well could be among the top 10.

I do think, however, that when both reach their ceilings, that Carr will be the better of the 2.

But, regardless, both can probably be locked up to long term deals that, combined, won't be equal to what Asamoghua will command on the open market.

While the Chiefs have a boatload of money to spend, I'd rather see them spend it improve areas of the roster that have actual needs, than see them sink it into one palyer in an area of strength.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:47 AM   #4
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I'd like to sign both of the Brandons to long term deals. In my opinion, spending the money on our own guys is a smarter move than spending a bunch of money on FA's.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:50 AM   #5
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I'd like to sign both of the Brandons to long term deals. In my opinion, spending the money on our own guys is a smarter move than spending a bunch of money on FA's.
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Old 07-23-2011, 10:55 AM   #6
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I'd like to sign both of the Brandons to long term deals. In my opinion, spending the money on our own guys is a smarter move than spending a bunch of money on FA's.
Fully agree. I think Flowers has every good reason to hold out, though I doubt he would. Rather than wait for his contract to expire, why not just pay him today? I know it's silly to pay a guy more money when his contract is for less, but I don't see any problem with that if you're doing that in a year where you're sitting on a ton of cap space that you'll never get back again. Same goes for D-Bowe.

Signing Hali, Carr, Flowers, Bowe, and giving Cassel his $7.5M bonus... that will fill up our available cap space really fast.
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Carr hasn't yet reached his ceiling.

Neither he, nor Flowers, will not likely ever be considered the top 2 CBs in the league, but both very well could be among the top 10.

I do think, however, that when both reach their ceilings, that Carr will be the better of the 2.

But, regardless, both can probably be locked up to long term deals that, combined, won't be equal to what Asamoghua will command on the open market.

While the Chiefs have a boatload of money to spend, I'd rather see them spend it improve areas of the roster that have actual needs, than see them sink it into one palyer in an area of strength.
Would you trade Carr for Nhamdi and a second round pick?

I would.

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy as a fat boy with a whole chocolate cake if we locked up both corners long term...but I don't think an NFL team can ever afford to pass on profit of talent and picks.

Really though, it's a moot point because NA will be a Buc as soon as a cba is done.
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:11 PM   #8
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Would you trade Carr for Nhamdi and a second round pick?

I would.
No ****ing way...
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No ****ing way...
Why not?

Nhamdi is Carrs ceiling and that hypothetical would also yield a profited pick.
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Why not?

Nhamdi is Carrs ceiling and that hypothetical would also yield a profited pick.
Trade a pick?

Yes.

Lose a player for a player.

No.

I'd trade a 5th for the rights to Randy Moss.

I would not trade a 6th and Jeremy Horne (still think could be a solid 2 with coaching) for a Moss.

Just me...
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:23 PM   #11
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I still would like Asamoghua , Flowers, and Carr to go along with Berry and Lewis. Teams like the Packers, Colts, Saints, Jets, Chargers, Pats, Falcons... to name a few are set at QB, have multiple talented WR's, and solid TE's. Those 3 would be on the field quite a bit of the time at the same time.

You really can't have enough talented CB's to go against teams like that, or those teams will pick you apart. I think Rex Ryan knows that too, because in spite of having a heck of a CB tandem the Jets went out and picked up Cromartie last season because Ryan knew he needed them to get past the big dogs in the AFC. Damn near got it done too.
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Old 07-23-2011, 12:28 PM   #12
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Would you trade Carr for Nhamdi and a second round pick?

I would.
Uh, what?

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I think you know where I'm going with this. Yes, yes, WAY more talent than Cassel that's a given. BUT, a system is a system and it's been custom-tailored for him as the seasons have gone by. My bet is that though he would hardly fall flat, I doubt he would make the transition to another team well enough to even achieve a Championship game much less another Super Bowl.

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Yes.

The hypothetical thought process here is would you sign Asamouhga if we were able to trade Carr for a minimum of a second round pick?

So, essentially it would be trading Carr for Nhamdi AND a second round pick.

I think some here misunderstood the question for some reason.
That's a hell of a deal, but I'm a big proponent of team chemistry and it seems to me that Flowers and Carr have the mojo.

And it's only beginning to rise...
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Would you trade Carr for Nhamdi and a second round pick?

I would.

Don't get me wrong, I would be happy as a fat boy with a whole chocolate cake if we locked up both corners long term...but I don't think an NFL team can ever afford to pass on profit of talent and picks.

Really though, it's a moot point because NA will be a Buc as soon as a cba is done.
No, I wouldn't.

As you say, Aso is Carr's ceiling, and even should he not reach that ceiling, he's still pretty damn good and getting better, and he's younger and will still be more cost effective.

And, as I said, while the Chiefs have a lot of money to spend, I'd rather spend it on more positions to improve the overall talent and depth of this team than on one position that limits the ability to get quality players elsewhere for this roster.

The only position that I could support overpaying for is QB, and that QB has to be a franchise, top 5-7 guy.
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